Episode 195

Dr. Anthony Youn  ·  America's Holistic Plastic Surgeon®

“I thought, oh, my gosh, that was it. That was my time, I had two minutes and it's over like I'm done, and the next day I had ten new consultations and nine the day after, and my practice exploded from literally two minutes on TV”

Known as America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon®, Anthony Youn, M.D. F.A.C.S is a nationally-recognized, board-certified plastic surgeon. Recognized as a leader in his field, he is the author of the best-selling books “The Age Fix: A Leading Plastic Surgeon Reveals How To Really Look Ten Years Younger,” “In Stitches: A Memoir,” and “Playing God: The Evolution of a Modern Surgeon.” His public television special, The Age Fix with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been viewed by millions.  Dr. Youn also hosts the popular podcast The Holistic Plastic Surgery Show.  He is a social media star, with over 4 million subscribers on his YouTube Channel and 8 million followers on TikTok.

 

Social media handles:

TikTok: @doctoryoun

Instagram: @tonyyounmd

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Podcast Transcript

[00:00:00] Maggie Chui: Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Asian Hustle Network podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us. His name is Dr. Anthony Youn, known as America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon, Anthony Youn, M.D. F.A.C.S is a nationally-recognized board-certified plastic surgeon. Recognized as a leader in his field, he is the author of the bestselling books “The Age Fix: A Leading Plastic Surgeon Reveals How To Look Ten Years Younger”, “A Memoir” and “Playing God: The Evolution of a Modern Surgeon.” His public television special, The Age Fix with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been viewed by millions. Dr. Youn also hosts the popular podcast “The Holistic Plastic Surgery Show.”

[00:00:38] Maggie Chui: He is a social media star with over 4 million subscribers on his YouTube channel and 8 million followers on TikTok. Dr. Youn, welcome to the show. 

[00:00:47] Anthony Youn: Thank you so much for having me talk to you. 

[00:00:49] Bryan Pham: It’s an honor to have you on the show. To be honest, I have been following your content for so long now. And I want to take the opportunity to listen to more about your story.

[00:00:57] Bryan Pham: Where did you grow up? What was your upbringing like? How did you become the surgeon and the TikTok star you are today? 

[00:01:05] Anthony Youn: Oh, thank you. Yes, my upbringing was probably similar to a lot of Asian Americans. My parents immigrated from Korea, and they decided that I would be a doctor the day I was born.

[00:01:15] Anthony Youn: And I guess the typical middle child in an Asian family. I was like, okay, that’s fine. I had this idea that I wanted to help people. I did well in school, specifically in math and sciences, surprisingly. And so, I just set out on the path I laid for.

[00:01:34] Anthony Youn: What happened after that is I had this decision to make about what type of doctor I want to be. My dad is an OB-GYN, and he had this idea that I should be one of these high-powered surgeons, a neurosurgeon, a transplant surgeon, and a cardiac surgeon. But I was not that type of doctor. I admire very intense surgeons because I just can’t do that.

[00:02:01] Anthony Youn: You know what I mean, transplant surgery and things like that. I had a dilemma and decided that maybe I would be a family doctor, which disappointed my parents because they wanted me to be this high-powered surgeon. And so, it wasn’t until late in my last year of medical school that I discovered plastic surgery, which appealed to me.

[00:02:20] Anthony Youn: I’ve been an artist all my life, and the combination of the artistry of medicine drew me in. And so, I went into the field of plastic surgery. I wrote a lot about this in my book. In stitches is a memoir about growing up as an Asian American in middle America and becoming a doctor.

[00:02:37] Maggie Chui: Wow. I would love to talk about that and dive deeper into that topic. What it was like to be an Asian in this industry? Did you experience any discrimination at all? At that time, I didn’t know how much representation there was for the Asian community, but as we all know, there was not enough Asian representation in many industries. Also, we’d love to hear your perspective on the medical industry.

[00:03:05] Anthony Youn: Yes, it’s interesting. I grew up in a tiny town in the middle of Michigan. We were the only Asian family there. There was one family that was half, but we were the only pure Asian family, so all my friends were Caucasian.

[00:03:17] Anthony Youn: There was very little diversity as far as racial diversity, although there was a good amount of economic diversity there. And so, I grew up basically with a bunch of white friends and went in through training, which resonates all that. I stayed in the same area, near the west Michigan area, so it didn’t change much. 

[00:03:36] Anthony Youn: In some ways, interestingly enough, being an Asian physician, I don’t see that as a detriment as I went through school. As an Asian person, and when I had glasses and stuff, they assumed that you were really smart; they trusted me. They think that you know what you’re doing.

[00:03:52] Anthony Youn: In some ways, I guess that’s good. In some ways, maybe that’s not so good because if you don’t know what you’re doing, then you don’t want people to assume that you do. And so, for me, I think a lot of people were growing up at that time. I did encounter a good amount of racism just from small-town folk and all of that. But I didn’t let it deter me from the direction I wanted to go in my life.

[00:04:15] Anthony Youn: I think, if anything, the challenge wasn’t so much outside, but it was more inside. It was inside the family and the challenge of the old school. Asian parents I grew up with had very specific ideas of what you would do with your life. There was no deviation from that, and there lay the actual challenge.

[00:04:35] Anthony Youn: Whereas all my friends, oh, their parents say, hey, do what you want to do what makes you happy? My parents were like, no, you should be a doctor. That’s the way it is. 

[00:04:43] Bryan Pham: Yes. Let’s talk about that too. Let’s talk about the expectation. How would you manage and meet expectations? 

[00:04:48] Bryan Pham: I know that sometimes for Asian Americans, it does create a lot of stress, right? A lot of parents have expectations that they want their kids to go to Harvard or Stanford. These elite schools are right off the bat when you’re still growing up, figuring yourself out. How do you deal with your parents’ expectations of where your life is heading?

[00:05:06] Anthony Youn: Yes, I think I was never one to rock the boat. And so, I always did well in school. And as long as I did well in school, they left me alone. It wasn’t until I got laid into medical school that it came down to, okay, now what doctor are you going to be? And at that point, I was 22. Let me think.

[00:05:25] Anthony Youn: At that time in medical school, what was I like? 24, something like that. To have your dad still tell you that this is what you’re going to do is very difficult. It came down to the point where I told him, look, I’m going to become a family doctor because I just don’t want to be a surgeon like those guys.

[00:05:40] Anthony Youn: I, one day, was in my general surgery. We call the clerkship when you are a medical student, and it is three in the morning. I saw a 60-year-old man stumble out of the call room at night to get a surgeon to go attend to a trauma. And I thought, oh my gosh, I don’t want that life. I don’t want to be in my sixties, still sleeping in the hospital at night.

[00:05:59] Anthony Youn: God bless those people who do that. It’s just not for me. And so, I told them, look, I don’t want to be this type of surgeon. I want to be a family doctor. I just want to help take care of people and maybe do some other things with my life. If you are that type of surgeon, that’s all you do.

[00:06:12] Anthony Youn: It seems he was very unhappy with me. This is part of the book I put in. That was touching. At one point, I was sleeping; I was back home in my old twin bed that I grew up sleeping in, and in the middle of the night, my dad knocked on the door. He comes in, he says, scoots over.

[00:06:27] Anthony Youn: We’re both lying in this twin bed at three in the morning. I’m like, what is he doing here? And he said, Tony, I know you say you want to be a family doctor, and that’s okay. That’s what you want to do. Then, you have my blessing to do it. And he said you’re probably not going to have much money. You’re going to have a small house.

[00:06:45] Anthony Youn: You’re going to have one car, but if that’s what you want to do, go ahead. That was when he finally let me go and let me do what I wanted to do with my life. And then, I became a plastic surgeon, writing three books, and doing all this stuff, so it worked out for the best.

[00:07:03] Maggie Chui: I feel as any typical Asian parent like they eventually get to the end of the tunnel where they are like, okay, I’ll just let you do whatever you feel like you want to do, whatever you feel most passionate about, but I’m just going to remind you of the consequences, and that’s precisely what he did. 

[00:07:17] Anthony Youn: Exactly. 

[00:07:19] Maggie Chui: But I’m sure it must have been a weight lifted off your shoulder when he felt confident in what you wanted to achieve. But look at you now, a plastic surgeon. And I want to know what your experience was like opening up your practice at that time. How old were you just walking us through the process of that?

[00:07:36] Anthony Youn: This was in my second book, Playing God. That was where I finished medical school. I did a residency, three years in general surgery, and two years of plastic surgery. This is where you work in the hospitals, and you learn from doctors and patients. I spent a year in Beverly Hills working with a top name, Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon.

[00:07:52] Anthony Youn: And I had the decision to make. I was married at the time to my wife. We’re still married now, but we didn’t have kids. I hadn’t offered to stay in Beverly Hills or when my family. They all live in Southern California, so it was either stay there or move back to Michigan, where my in-laws live.

[00:08:08] Anthony Youn: We decided at that time that it was either living in Beverly Hills, in this high-powered plastic surgery practice, that the leading doctors wanted me to stay. We were doing TV shows and stuff like that at the time or moved back to Michigan. I decided with my wife to come back to Michigan because we didn’t want to raise our children in Beverly Hills and in a potential environment where it was just all about money and appearances and all that type of stuff.

[00:08:32] Anthony Youn: And we moved back to Michigan, and I started to practice. I had no money. We have $400,000 in debt. I had no patience. I did everything I possibly could. I had no friends in town or anything. I did everything I could to get started to the point where I would get my haircut at a different place every couple of days just to hand out my business cards so that somebody might come to have me take a mole off their face or something like that.

[00:09:00] Anthony Youn: It was crazy. I was bringing bagels to family doctors’ offices. I was giving free talks to the Lions’ Club, the Rotary Guild, and all these things. It wasn’t until suddenly that we did some taping of a show called Dr. 9 0 2 1 0 back in California. This was one of the first plastic surgery reality shows.

[00:09:19] Anthony Youn: I did it in my last month or two in California. They film me going away party and all this stuff. And so, I had in the back of my mind, these dreams that someday this show might air and maybe I’m going to be a star from it. And so, I got a call as my practice is dead in the water. I have nothing going on.

[00:09:35] Anthony Youn: Nobody’s calling. I’ve got no office. I have got a professional phone number that goes to my cell phone. Nobody was calling, and I was getting concerned that I wasn’t going to make it, that we would go bankrupt. 

[00:09:49] Anthony Youn: I got a call from a producer for the Dr. 90210 show. And they said, hey, Dr. Youn, you’re going to be on episode three. I think it was episode three. We just want to give you a heads-up because I think it will be huge for you. And I thought, oh my gosh, as my time has come. And I thought I was going to be this massive star. They are going to, like, call me back down. I will have a star on the Hollywood walk of fame and all this stuff.

[00:10:10] Anthony Youn: I got excited. I had no friends to have a party with, so it was just me, my wife, and my little dog. We turned the TV on, and the episode was a half-hour episode and 27 minutes. Into the episode, I was literally on for two seconds. 

[00:10:23] Anthony Youn: At the end of the episode, they say, Dr. Youn. They had a minute or two at my going away party, and they said Dr. Youn is going to Rochester, Michigan. I made him an offer. He couldn’t refuse, and he refused it, and that was it. The show was over. I was gone, and I thought, oh, my gosh, that was it. That was my time, I had two minutes. It’s over like I’m done, and the next day I had ten new consultations.

[00:10:49] Anthony Youn: I had nine the day after, and my practice exploded from literally two minutes on TV. The fact is, with that show, they kept repeating it. This was back in the early days of E before the Kardashians, where the reality shows they would repeat over and over. It just came down to millions of dollars of free advertising for me.

[00:11:08] Anthony Youn: It taught me the power of media and got me into the direction I have gone and the rest of my career.

[00:11:14] Bryan Pham: That is insane. Hearing about the hustle story at the very beginning, going to private practice, heading on business cards. When we look at you, and you look at what you have achieved so far in your social media, you have never known right about how much work you put into it.

[00:11:27] Bryan Pham: And that’s the thing with the Asian community too. Sometimes, we look at our idols. Sometimes, we look at our role bottles. We forget that they started somewhere too. It’s fantastic having this type of podcast and hearing your story and what you’ve been through because those are still going through the same struggles right now, and more or less, you give up. 

[00:11:42] Bryan Pham: If you don’t know about it, it’s about consistency and having a good head on your shoulders. 

[00:11:45] Anthony Youn: Yes. I think people don’t realize you’re an overnight sensation, and it comes down to me; it took me to get to where I am now.

[00:11:52] Anthony Youn: It was 15 years of working my tail off. People say, where do you have time to write books and pitch for TV shows, and do all the social media? The fact is that I don’t golf like there it is. If you’re a doctor and you say, hey, instead of spending those eight hours every week on the golf course, I’m going to spend it creating content, writing, studying, stuff like that.

[00:12:13] Anthony Youn: There you go. And so, for me, one thing that my parents always instilled in me when I was young was a work ethic that I developed when I moved here and even before that. But when I moved and started my practice, I knew that if I didn’t bust my butt, I would fail. 

[00:12:28] Anthony Youn: Failure was not an option, so when I moved to Michigan, I was going to outwork, outlast and outplay. It’s like a survivor workout; play survives. I said within five years, I would be the top guy in town. I sent letters to 25 plastic surgeons in town asking for a job. Can you please take me under your wing?

[00:12:46] Anthony Youn: Nobody replied; I got zero offers. And so, I decided at that point, okay, if nobody’s going to help me, I will take their business from them. And five years from now, I will be the top guy. As an Asian, kindly at the same time, I didn’t want anything wrong to happen to these other doctors, but at the same time, hey, you know what? I’m going to carve my niche out there. No matter what. 

[00:13:05] Bryan Pham: Ooh, I love it. I love it so much; you are an overnight sensation, right? Let’s talk about your TikTok equalization because I noticed your account grew tremendously, month after month, week after week. I think we didn’t follow you for a pretty long time now.

[00:13:19] Bryan Pham: Let’s talk about that real quick. How did you get into TikTok? How did you hear about TikTok? Did your daughter get you into TikTok? 

[00:13:24] Anthony Youn: Yes. I was busy back in the days of Facebook life, and I did Twitter for a while. I was on Instagram, but I wasn’t one of the first doctors on Instagram. And then, this thing came around TikTok, and I was focused on social media then.

[00:13:39] Anthony Youn: Before social media, many people don’t know, but I did a ton of TV. I’ve been on all the main TV shows. I was on Dr. Oza’s show, I think, seven or eight times and stuff like I’ve been doing a lot.

[00:13:50] Anthony Youn: But I figured out that at some point, I was gonna go out, and they’re going to use other people. It’s like an actor, you’re at a certain age, and everybody wants you on. And then at some point, like, they stopped calling, and I thought, okay, before that happens, I’m going to start developing my platform.

[00:14:03] Anthony Youn: So, about seven years ago, I started focusing on social media. I started posting a lot on Facebook, doing Facebook lives and stuff like that, back when Facebook was a thing. And then, in 2019 mid-2019, TikTok came around. People were talking about it like, oh, it’s dancing, like I’m not going to dance.

[00:14:21] Anthony Youn: I started playing around with it. I made little videos, and the pandemic hit in March 2020. And at that time, I had a decent audience, but I still wasn’t quite near where I was. I found myself in a closed office with ten employees I had promised to pay. However, at that time, we were going to be closed down, and no income coming in.

[00:14:42] Anthony Youn: At the same time I spent, it was 20. I know I spent 16 years or something taking care of people. I’m a plastic surgeon. It’s COVID. I volunteered at the local hospital if they needed me, but man, if you need me, it’s got to be natural, like we’re talking end of the world type stuff, so they didn’t, thank God. 

[00:15:01] Anthony Youn: They didn’t need me. But it was like, how do I help people during this time? And I just started making videos. I started thinking, you know what, maybe I can give people a little chuckle even if it’s at my expense. That’s okay because if I can just give somebody five seconds, 10 seconds, a minute, two minutes, whatever, I can pull them out of the horrible situation we were all in March 2020 or April 2020.

[00:15:25] Anthony Youn: We were stuck inside. People were worried and nervous, then it was a privilege. And so. I started making videos. I started having people tell me to thank you for keeping me company. I’ve been at home alone for two months, and you’re keeping me company during this time, which meant a lot. All these messages that I would get and stuff.

[00:15:42] Anthony Youn: And that’s really when I started creating more content. I stopped worrying at that time about who I should be on camera. Do I need to uphold this image of the professional Asian plastic surgeon, doctor, or person, and that will not work on TikTok anyway. People see right through it.

[00:15:59] Anthony Youn: That’s the exciting thing about TikTok. That’s different. That is, say, Instagram. A lot of it is trying to show off your best self. Look at these great photos of me shopping in extravagant locations, and TikTok looks at me, acting like my goofy self.

[00:16:13] Anthony Youn: And that’s basically what I did. And since then, it has exploded. I do also have a YouTube channel that I started putting a lot of time into, as well, for more long-form entertainment to try to help educate and entertain. It’s kind of like edutainment. And I think it’s worked well because part of it is that I’m not worried about what people think of me.

[00:16:30] Anthony Youn: I have a waiting list of over two years for patients to see me, so I don’t care. If somebody watches it, they don’t like me. Fine. Don’t come to see me. That’s okay. But at the same time, I think people find me trustworthy. Part of it is that I’m a Korean American, as we talked about earlier. They assume that you’re smart.

[00:16:46] Anthony Youn: They assume you’re well-studied. That’s a good thing that comes with being Asian. Sometimes even if maybe, it’s not true, I hope, in my case, it is. But all that I think has worked in my favor, and I appreciate I do have this large number of Asian followers. And for a long time, people kept saying, you look like you’re J Hope’s dad. And so many of us are just playing into some of this stuff, and it’s been a lot. 

[00:17:07] Maggie Chui: That’s amazing. And I think there’s another part of it because you’re Korean American. A lot of people go to Korea to get plastic surgery. And so, there’s maybe that reputation, but we both love your content.

[00:17:18] Maggie Chui: What makes it unique is that it captures you. There’s this like captivity with your content where it’s, I want to learn more about this because I feel.

[00:17:27] Maggie Chui: A while ago, plastic surgery was not talked about. Many people always looked down upon it, or maybe they always thought, oh, because you’re getting plastic surgery.

[00:17:37] Maggie Chui: It means that you don’t love yourself, which is invalid. Your content is unique because you’re normalizing it a lot. Making others feel like it’s okay to have plastic surgery. We see a lot of celebrities get it. We know a lot of ordinary people every day, Joe Schmo. People get it.

[00:17:50] Maggie Chui: It’s really interesting seeing your content when it’s, oh, I want to know what celebrity is getting which plastic surgery and your content delivers that sort of content. I just really love it. 

[00:17:59] Anthony Youn: I feel that celebrities do the public a disservice when they don’t admit to having stuff done. Because some celebrities look so great, and we put them on this pedestal of look how beautiful this person is or how handsome they are. And they go, oh, I’m natural. Now you are putting this expectation on everybody else. Everybody then, if you lie about it, you’re saying that I look this good naturally.

[00:18:20] Anthony Youn: And everybody else should look this good naturally. And that’s just misrepresenting yourself. It’s giving false beliefs, especially to young people watching that and saying, why don’t I look like this person? Is there something wrong with me?

[00:18:34] Anthony Youn: The answer is no, there’s nothing wrong with you. You just haven’t spent $200,000 on getting work done. You don’t have a personal trainer. You don’t have a chef and a dietician, nutritionist, or all that stuff. If you did, maybe you would look like that person, so don’t put yourself down because you don’t feel you look as good as this celebrity.

[00:18:52] Anthony Youn: And so for me, a lot of dispelling is not to call the celebrities out or say it’s good or bad, but just to say, hey, you know what? They look great, but we also need to understand that this isn’t necessarily what you may think about them. 

[00:19:06] Bryan Pham: Yes, I appreciate you bringing that to light too. I like the humor on your TikTok, especially with the squeaking humor. We have seen that a lot. 

[00:19:14] Anthony Youn: That’s crazy. Just a quick little story. My wife and kids were at a BTS concert in Vegas just a few months ago. I was lucky enough to score some floor seats, the most expensive tickets I’ve ever paid for in my life.

[00:19:27] Anthony Youn: We’re on the floor, and I have these couple of people come up to me, and they asked me to take a picture with them. Hey, doctor, can we take a picture with you? I’m like, oh, sure. Then, another couple of people came up. Oh, can we take a picture? I’m like, yes, sure. And then, next thing, there’s a line of people.

[00:19:37] Anthony Youn: 40 people on the floor want to take a picture of me. So I’m taking photos with these people, and I’m realizing they’re not saying my name. They’re not saying, hey, thanks, Dr. Youn. They’re just taking pictures and saying thank you. And so, I go to one of them. Who do you think I am? And they go, you’re that guy from the squid game.

[00:19:54] Anthony Youn: And I’m like, oh my God, so I make an announcement. 40 people are waiting. I’m not that guy from the squid game. I’m the plastic surgeon, and three forces of line disperse. My wife and kids started laughing because it was like literally three or four people left. And then, there were a few people like, I’m going to take a picture of you anyway, because you’ve gotta be somebody I’m like, oh, thanks.

[00:20:13] Maggie Chui: That is hilarious. That’s one of the best stories I’ve heard. 

[00:20:17] Maggie Chui: We are near the end of the podcast, but there is one thing that I want to know. I feel like many plastic surgeons, like all doctors in cosmetic medicine, usually have some sort of interesting patient story to tell. Do you have one that stands out to you?

[00:20:30] Anthony Youn: Yes. There are always a lot of patients that really, I think, impact you. I can tell you one that I think was huge for me. This one was included in my last book Playing God. That was a massive deal for me. I had a woman who came in to see me. She had lost a lot of weight; whenever you lose a ton of weight, it can leave you with what we call a panic.

[00:20:47] Anthony Youn: This is a lot of excess skin hanging from your tummy. She saw a different plastic surgeon. She had multiple other medical issues. A lot of it stems from how heavy she used to be. From diabetes to heart disease, she had stents from heart attacks and multiple other problems.

[00:21:03] Anthony Youn: She had a tummy tuck done by another surgeon, and everything fell apart afterward. She developed what she said was a flesh-eating type of bacterial infection. She had a third of the skin on her tummy die. It took her months in the hospital and in rehab to heal all of that.

[00:21:18] Anthony Youn: It left her with this kind of socked-in scarred tummy. She came in to see me, and she said, Dr. Youn. She’s a reasonably overweight woman with a cane in her early sixties or so. She said I’m in chronic pain. She said I’ve got this card up the tummy. I’ve seen 12 other plastic surgeons, and everybody has turned me down.

[00:21:35] Anthony Youn: You’re my last hope. Can you please help me? What’s going on? She told me her story and said, Dr. Youn, I’m in constant pain constantly. And she said, Honestly, the only thing I want to do is play with my granddaughter again. And I’ve seen the fear that I will never be able to do that. So I said, let’s take a look at you.

[00:21:51] Anthony Youn: I looked at her tummy, and it was just this vast scarred mess looking at her and pulling some of the skin here and there. If things went perfectly, I thought I might be able to recreate her tummy fairly reasonably, but she had all these medical issues and everything inside my head. As a physician was saying, don’t operate on.

[00:22:10] Anthony Youn: She’s way too risky. If she dies on the acronym table, this is on you. This is on you, and there are times as a physician when you make the decision based on your head and every once in a while. Sometimes you make a decision based on your heart, and you have this feeling that it’s just the right thing to do.

[00:22:28] Anthony Youn: So against all my other medical beliefs and all these other surgeons who said no to her, I said, you know what, no guarantees. I said you could die in this operation. Do you want to take that risk? And she said if I don’t have this operation, I might as well; I’m dead anyway because I’m not living.

[00:22:46] Anthony Youn: And so, I did the operation. And we build insurance for it. We did the surgery, and the surgery went smoothly. She came back to see me about three weeks later with a big smile and no cane. And she had come with baked goods as payment because her insurance rejected the claim.

[00:23:07] Anthony Youn: They said it was cosmetic, not reconstructive, which was BS and a whole other deal. She said, doctor, I don’t have any money to pay you. I hope that you’ll accept this cake in total. I tell you, I have a rule that I do not eat stuff people bring out of their kitchen because I don’t know what their kitchen looks like.

[00:23:24] Anthony Youn: I don’t know if they’ve got a cat walking on the countertops, but I’m like, oh yes, sure. I take it, put it in the kitchen, and ask her, ” How are you doing? And she said, Dr. Youn, yesterday was the first time I had played with my granddaughter in nine months. And she said, thank you so much.

[00:23:40] Anthony Youn: She said, why did you take the chance to operate on me when everybody else said no? I told her I knew that doing this operation wasn’t just me doing it. There was somebody up above who was with me that whole time. And I just had this knowledge, this feeling, this gut feeling that we would do this well. 

[00:23:56] Anthony Youn: I took a bite of that cake later against my better decision and better judgment. But this was one of those patients I will remember for the rest of my career. Because just every once in a while, somebody comes in and makes an impact on you. They impact you more than you move them in so many ways.

[00:24:12] Anthony Youn: It taught me. You can learn a lot of this stuff, but you just have to go by your gut feeling every once in a while. And knowing sometimes, that’s the right thing to do. No matter what everything else looks like. 

[00:24:23] Maggie Chui: Yes, that’s such a beautiful story. Thank you so much for sharing that.

[00:24:27] Maggie Chui: Dr. Youn, it just goes back to remind you why you do what you do in the first place. But that just brought me teary-eyed.

[00:24:33] Maggie Chui: We have one last question for you, Dr. Youn, and that is what’s next for you. What kind of goals do you have within the next, let’s say, five years? 

[00:24:42] Anthony Youn: Yes, I have got a lot of things going on. I’ve got a book I’m writing, my fourth one, right now. It’s a holistic anti-aging book, so I’m excited about that. We’re turning in the manuscript by the end of the year. So it’s going to be published by Harper Collins. I’m also in the middle of pitching a reality show. We have talked to multiple production companies and a scripted show based on my memoirs.

[00:25:01] Anthony Youn: A lot going on with Hollywood. You just never know what will be made and what won’t, but right now, it’s, hey, Asians are hot. This is a good time to be an Asian American because Hollywood wants us, and people want to hear from us. I appreciate you having me on the podcast.

[00:25:15] Anthony Youn: I appreciate you spreading the stories of many successful Asian Americans. 

[00:25:19] Maggie Chui: Absolutely; where can our listeners find out more about you and your books online? 

[00:25:24] Anthony Youn: I’m everywhere. You can find me on TikTok on social media. Just look up Dr. Youn. I’m at dryoun.com. I also have a skincare line called UN beauty, and you can find that at @unbeauty.com.

[00:25:32] Maggie Chui: Amazing. We will leave all of that in the show. It was a pleasure having you on our podcast today. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. 

[00:25:39] Anthony Youn: Thank you, Bryan, Maggie. I appreciate it, of course. 

[00:25:40] Bryan Pham: Thank you, Dr. Youn.