Episode 144

Jessica Woo ·  Bento Box Queen

“Honestly, it’s just something you just have to do, it’s not like you can sit there and someone is going to do it for you. So it’s just at that point where it’s like, you just have to do it”

Originally from LA’s Koreatown but native to Las Vegas, a 35-year-old mother of three darling girls (Adeline 10, Maxine 8, and Olive 3), Jessica Woo, has recently seen massive success as a viral lifestyle content creator on TikTok for her creative and aesthetically magical short clips of assembling simple, yet strikingly beautiful DIY bento-style lunches with mom’s unique, loving touch. After starting her TikTok account (@sulheejessica) in January 2020, Jessica has surpassed over 5 million followers eagerly watching and sharing her cooking and lunch videos mixed in with DIY, family fun, beauty, and lifestyle clips.


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Instagram: @sulheejessica

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YouTube: @sulheejessica

Facebook: @sulheejessica

Pinterest: @sulheejessica

Snapchat: @jessifluff

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Jessica Woo

Intro: (00:00:00) Hey guys, welcome to Asian Hustle Network Podcast my name is Bryan and my name is Maggie. We interview Asian entrepreneurs around the world to amplify their voices and empower Asians to pursue their dreams and goals. We believe that each person has a message and a unique story from their entrepreneurial journey that they can share with all of us.

Maggie: (00:00:23) Today we have a very special guest with us, her name is Jessica. Originally from LA’s Koreatown but native to Las Vegas, a 33-year-old mother of three darling girls (Adeline 10, Maxine 8, and Olive 3), Jessica Woo, has recently seen massive success as a viral lifestyle content creator on TikTok for her creative and aesthetically magical short clips of assembling simple, yet strikingly beautiful DIY bento-style lunches with mom’s unique, loving touch. After starting her TikTok account (@sulheejessica) in January 2020, Jessica has surpassed over 5 million followers eagerly watching and sharing her cooking and lunch videos mixed in with DIY, family fun, beauty, and lifestyle clips. Jessica, welcome to the show!

Jessica: (00:01:18) Thanks for having me!

Bryan(00:01:19) Of course, we are star-struck still, like we can’t talk to you properly. We’re going to stutter along with this podcast, but I want to hop into who you are and what your story is.  I think that we read a lot of interviews online, but they haven’t quite covered deep into yourself. Where’d you grow up? What was your upbringing like?

Jessica: (00:01:43) As Maggie said I grew up in LA in Koreatown, but I moved to Vegas start of 7th grade pretty much and I’ve been in Las Vegas since I went to high school college here.  I love it here, I feel like it’s exciting and there’s always something going on.

My background is I worked in a lot of retail such as Luxury retail, all kinds of retail and I was in the hospitality industry, I was a server and a bartender mixologist, whatever you want to call all those names. So I had a lot of food and drink background in the hospitality industry. I also went to school for journalism and media studies with a concentration in advertising and public relations.

I think obviously that kind of helped me when I started doing this full-time (TikTok)  and kind of tied into everything because my last real job was I was a marketing director for a cannabis company here in Las Vegas. It’s legal here and it was something exciting and new, and I  took on the marketing director position started that and that was my last real job.

And then after that, I wanted to stay home and just be creative. So I started making cute little hair clips and key chains and anything that I can do with my hands. I love creating and doing art. So I took a few years off doing that and then I also have a big makeup background and was a makeup artist for 15 years.

Maggie: (00:03:43) Yeah, I think this was, what we talked about, well for our listeners who don’t know, Bryan and I are in Las Vegas as well. When we first met Jessica, we had gone out to lunch in Las Vegas and this was like when we were getting to know each other and Jessica was just telling us everything that she’s done before, and like just all the things that she’s interested in doing. We’re just like, wow, you have so many hobbies and you just know how to do so many things. I think it’s incredible, like the way that you want to learn, how to do which is such a good skill to have.

Bryan(00:04:14_ You embodied the hustle culture in Las Vegas and I feel like a lot of them are here to do so many different things. Obviously, you’re a very self-sufficient individual. I want to focus more on your early life because I want to understand how you view yourself, how you view the world at that time and we’d have to go so young when you start from like 18 or something.

Jessica: (00:04:38) Around when I was 18 was when I started my makeup career and I got an opportunity to work for Benefit, which is a makeup brand. If you’re not familiar, with benefit cosmetics. That’s where I started selling makeup,  learning how to, teach people. I didn’t go to school for makeup or aesthetician and that’s what makeup was back then aesthetics.

I don’t want to do skincare. I don’t want to learn how to wax people. I just want to do makeup because it’s like painting to me. I don’t have to go to school, I can just work and sell makeup and do makeup on people and that’s what I wanted to do.

So then I did that for a while and was one of the youngest makeup artists for Mag working at the counter and it was just so exciting I did this while going to college at the same time and then I also was working as a server. 

I worked at this place called the Artisan it’s like really, really old and cool. There’s a chapel in there and  I actually got to meet Paul Walker working there and so many fun stories. I just love working and It’s not like I had to like work so hard. I mean, I did, I was living on my own cause I didn’t want anything from my parents.

So I moved out as soon as I could. I live with my best friend and I worked and went to college really that was my life for a little bit. In my twenties, I did the whole clubbing thing and was in the industry. So food and service industry, that’s what you do. Your party and you make cash money, it’s Vegas.

That was such a fun time in my life too and then I got married pretty young. I was 20 when I got married and I had my first baby and had been with him for five years and in a long-term relationship with him. Got married at the baby thing, and had my two kids with him. I just always love working and wanting to learn everything and anything that I am good and I’ve never been one to just be at an office, sitting there with a stable income and that sounds great but for me, I would rather do fun things because there’s so many fun, cool things to do in this life.

Bryan(00:07:09) It’s a reflection of who you are today, and I appreciate you sharing the story with us, sharing who you are and really sharing and opening up, but tell us about your story. You’re right. Because I feel like with you particularly, there are so many nuances to who you are. Beause when we see you on social media, you make the best Bento lunches for us to see, I love the relationship you have with your kids as well and I love the relationship you have with your partner.

For me, in my perspective, at least I feel like the way that the person becomes is because of their experiences and I feel like you and yourself have experienced so many things that I just want the world to see how awesome you are and how human you are. Because let’s be honest here,  we all go through to go through different things that we can share on social media.

There is never a time where you can go on social media and really be like guys, I’m not feeling well, and my mental health hurts. Our goal is to have a safe spot on our podcast where we go really deep into your story and really understand the nuances of how you operate.

We understand when you are watching from the outside, we always see the highlight reel, right? A lot of us will only the highlight reel and wonder if she must have had some sources of power. But the truth is, I’m pretty sure there’s a lot of long hours, some nights you just cry and you’re like okay, I can’t get it things together and I do want to talk about those.

Jessica: (00:08:46) I am definitely someone that people can see, I think, and be like, oh, well she did it. I can do it too because there are points in my life where I had nothing I had friends and family that could have been there for me and support me. There were a lot of rough times that I literally can say I started from the bottom because I really had a bad divorce. It was a bad marriage, to begin with, I could go into it if you guys want to but I basically was in a bad relationship with my ex.

He just was terrible and didn’t have any motivation. He was an alcoholic, a gambler, and with that comes a lot of things with addiction to pretty much anything. So it was just terrible and then finally, when I decided to leave him, I had saved up a bunch of money and my house got broken into and like being like literally, so all my money, I was saving and hiding because obviously, I couldn’t trust my ex with anything. He couldn’t be trusted.

I literally had nothing and then he took all our stuff and put it in storage, like all my furniture, all my stuff. He would not let me have anything and for a while, I had no car, he took my car, and he took my belonging. Then like on top of that, someone broke in and took the rest of my stuff so I literally had nothing.

I had to move in back with my parents and start at zero and someone me, I hated having things handed to me. That’s why I moved out. When I graduated high school, I just didn’t want anything from anyone just cause I wasn’t my personality I was like I’m fine with working hard for what I want.

I don’t want it from anybody so it sucks for me to like go back to my dad’s house and I had two kids with me and I basically just worked again and just saved up a bunch of money again and started all over and got my own place and actually that was a period of time where I was actually, the happiest was when I was alone with my kids after I got back on my feet.

For the first time,  it was just me and my kids and there was nobody I had to really think about or be responsible for or anything. I literally had nothing and then started building myself up and then a few years later I’ve always done the content creating thing just cause I was always in marketing.

That was right when I graduated at the point where people were just starting to be into social media. YouTubers at that point were huge and YouTube still is. I mean, even back then, when I had my second child, it was when I started my YouTube channel and then I had to stop everything because the people who broke into my house took my computers and my cameras and everything. It was just like, well, there goes that I can’t, I can’t film anymore. I can’t do any videos because it was already hard to do it beause I was like, I am learning all these things and this is all me and my sister is the only one that was like, you have so much to offer,  put yourself out there.  I was just like, okay, I’ll try it and then all that stuff happened, but yeah I’m fine.

Bryan(00:12:31) I’m so sorry to hear all those things happen but I’m so glad that you didn’t stop pushing forward. I didn’t;’t know how to react to the story and I say it with the utmost respect. We appreciate being vulnerable because we needed to hear this. Because there’s this podcast, your story is going to impact a lot of people, listen to what they’re going through, because I can almost sense the frustration, the hopelessness, and not giving up. It shows us a lot of who you are and you should give yourself a lot of credit for that, you deserve everything. You absolutely deserve it.

We want people to realize that because we look at some celebrity or we could say, yes, we consider you a pretty big celebrity and we’ll look at them like, oh yeah, probably have no issues. Everything was probably handed to them, that’s not true. 

Maggie: (00:13:52) I also want to say, I am so sorry that you had to deal with that and just listening to that. triggers me too. I feel mad about what happened to you, but I just wanted to say that I’m so glad that you are safe, that your daughters are safe.

And that is the most important thing to us and everyone else, you seem like such a strong person. I think a lot of that had come from the experiences that you had in the past, and that’s made you bring yourself back up and you had no choice, but to become a strong person yourself.

To be that example that you set for your kids and for yourself. In those types of situations, I can’t even imagine, sometimes it’s even hard to leave, right? Because you’ve had this like sense of fear of like, what is this person going to do? Are they going to break into my house again?

So in those types of situations, it’s, it’s so hard for that person to leave, but I’m just so glad that you were able to find a way out and find people that really care and love you and you were able to get your daughters to a safe place. Now I just wanted to come and do for. You are such a strong person that you have to come today because it’s not easy.

A lot of other people probably go through similar experiences, but we don’t put it on social media. Right? Like a lot of Asian people, they don’t want to put that stuff in on social media and share it with other people but you sharing the story. I am sure it’s going to be an influence on other people. I feel inspired. Help them find confidence and know that they’re not alone. So thank you so much for sharing that.

Jessica: (00:15:36) Thank you, guys. I know it’s like weird because my sister is always like, you’re the worst influencer or whatever because I’m such a private person and I’ve always been that way.  I don’t even tell anybody even knew I was in a bad marriage like nobody knew till I actually was like, oh, I’m getting a divorce now. 

I was with him for nine years and no one had no idea and I’ve always just been that way. So it is harder, but I think being in social media is helping me like talking about these things because I have to, because if I don’t, I’m just gonna probably break down and turn into Brittany, like how she just had a meltdown, like, I’m sure like that could happen to me because I don’t share things and yeah I kind of have to like force myself, but it’s a good thing because I want to now.

Bryan(00:16:36) Ours our job as hosts is to create a safe space for you to be comfortable talking about these things and I have to say that compared to the other stories that we have on our podcast. This is probably the most powerful that we’ve heard and, we don’t have to continue talking about things that make us uncomfortable.

How’d you pull yourself through during the darkest times, did friends reach out to you? How are you able to find that courage and light to pull yourself up?

Jessica: (00:17:48) Honestly, it’s just something you just have to do,  it’s not like you can sit there and someone is going to do it for you. So it’s just at that point where it’s like, you just have to do it. You can’t just sit there and expect anyone to do it for you because no one’s going to help you. Do you know what I mean? Like there are people who will support you and help you along the way but at the end of the day, you’re going to have to do it and make this as just in to either and just take this as a life lesson or.

You have the choice to be stuck there forever being miserable and I’m just not that kind of person. I would rather keep myself busy and move forward than sit there and sulk, I guess, and feel sorry for myself. I mean that doesn’t do anything. 

Nothing is going to help this situation easier for me beause it was already hard for me to leave my ex, get a divorce, and make that decision to like move on without my kids’ father. I mean once you have kids, I think that’s another obvious motivation like they’re not going to feed themselves. You just have to do it.

Maggie: (00:19:25) I also want to agree with you and I think you realized that it was better to find a safe and better situation for your daughters.  I think short-term, yes it will hurt short term. Yes, it will be really hard and difficult and heartbreaking for you. But long-term what kind of environment do you want for your kids? What kind of environment do you want them to grow up in? And I think you were able to kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel.

What is the better decision for yourself, which is to leave and find a safe space for your daughters, for yourself as well? So that takes a lot of courage and you’re so strong for that. When you are going through that, that would break anyone but you manage to just pivot. You’re just so involved in so many different things,  a makeup artist, working on so many different roles, you started YouTube about like seven years ago and so during that time, like what made you decide to start YouTube videos that it kind of like just catapulted into 461,000 subscribers on YouTube and you have over 5.7 million followers on TikTok. Wow, you have just had so much growth and it’s just so amazing to see that growth within you, Jessica.

Bryan(00:21:02) I want to hear about you starting YouTube and how did that prepare you to become a TikTokerr? Most people I find that are on YouTube first for a couple of years, that haven’t quite taken off, make the best transition to TikTok for example you see an opportunity and go all in to seize it. I feel you’re one of those people that did get that and  I want to hear about like your YouTube career and how that prepared you to become the TikToker that you are.

Jessica: (00:21:31)  I don’t think it really prepared me for the short-form video live. Going back to when I was starting, basically, my sister was in the generation of watching YouTube every day.

I would watch YouTube here and there, but me being busy all the time, I wasn’t really sitting down watching a lot of things, whether it was on TV or I was just always busy. Went to college and worked or partied or whatever, fitting in everything else when I could. I guess I just like wasn’t into it as much as her generation, because she is a lot younger than me.

So she was the one that’s like, please be on YouTube, please be on YouTube like put your makeup videos out there. She’s like put,  makes up and like she always saw me as someone that she can look up to. She already looked up to me for so many things that she was like put yourself out there because she already knew that I could do it.

I was like, okay  I’ll do it and so I just randomly started doing whatever it was. The first video I have up is me painting something on the wall, it was just a random thing.  I don’t know what I’m doing, I’m just going to paint something on the wall, like quick.

I didn’t know what I was doing, I was doing favorites videos. I was doing whatever everyone else is doing, but it was cool because I  couldn’t at least like be creative in a way and be like, oh, what do I want to film?

It kind of gave me that learning curve of like learning the camera, learning the filming, editing, and all that stuff definitely helped. But I think what helped me with this like growing with Ted Talk and starting to talk was just so realness and the rawness because YouTube was such a platform the best quality you need to have production value. You need to have like 20 minutes long and there were so many things that you needed in order to succeed because you had to stand out and like everyone had a nice camera. Everyone had all these things, and at the end of the day, you don’t need those things, you know?

I think that’s what worked for me because I am so at the moment kind of person and I work best when it’s real, I don’t] know how to put myself out there as some character or someone I want to be because I like myself and I can’t pretend to be someone else because I’m not.

I think that’s why TikTok works for me because it was so much more real and I could do it because I can show people like, this is what I do. This is me, this is what I do,m if you like me, then cool. If you don’t, then I’m sorry, but this is what you get and that’s what I loved about TikTok I love that you can find so many normal people who have so many great talents. 

Bryan(00:24:38) Obviously we love you and lots of people love you, so please continue putting your authentic self out. I really like that saying too, because you can’t please, everyone, especially on social media, you get a lot of mean comments here and there, but overall it like was very positive and we really like what you’re doing.

Maggie: (00:25:01) I just wanted to add that I like 100% agree with the whole YouTube versus TikTok thing because I feel like a lot of people are realizing that people are just posting the highlight reels, right? You can Photoshop and whatever, and you make it like the perfect picture and so everyone thinks that your life is all perfect  All of this is perfect. You’re flawless. But on TikTok, it’s so raw and real. It’s a video it’s like in real-time and so you get to see exactly what those expressions and how your emotions are.  I think that’s why a lot of people really like TikTok because it just shows people how real a person is. We’re all human beings and I think that’s why a lot of people love how you talk and made you blow up because people just love watching these lifestyles.

Jessica: (00:26:12) It’s changing, obviously, you see the shorts on YouTube now and reels and Snapchat’s doing stuff. I think people just want to be relatable, there are Hilton’s and the Kim Kardashians and you can’t really relate to them because it’s not the same. I’m a mom with three kids, you have no excuses,  like literally if I can do it, anybody can do it because it’s possible.

I literally do it in 30 minutes and it’s doable and I’m not this perfect person. I’m not perfect and I don’t seem to be and I always say if you don’t like me for like what you see then I’m sorry because that is who I am.

Bryan(00:27:15 We like you obviously and I want to add more to that statement. If I can do it, you can do it because I want to give you a lot of credit because you deserve more credit. It’s like, not all of us can do it. You have a unique talent to do it. You deserve everything that you have right now and hats off to you.

I’m kind of curious,  know you mentioned earlier when you first started your YouTube career, you didn’t know what your niche was. We understand that niching down is pretty important in the social media world. At what point did you realize that this is your niche? And I really liked the fact that you tied in your kids into your niche too, because I just love the family aspect, the food aspect, the two things that I appreciate the most in life is food and family.

You have that all in your content. How did you come up with that niche? Was it something where you kind of chemo the spur of the moment or it’s like, oh, like, what if I tried this? I want to hear more about niching down.

Jessica: (00:28:25) I wanted to make content about was like art, that was just like anytime I can make something or create something.  Anything that I can do creatively makes me happy so that was where I kind of doing the YouTube thing. I obviously did makeup or the painting on the wall and then my other love was food, but with food, I didn’t know how to incorporate that, I guess because I wasn’t a professional chef. I love cooking food, cooking is my passion, but I can’t really say that I do like cooking, but I love eating.

I love the community that food brings and I always tell this story as a kid growing up, my mom would take me everywhere. Show me all different kinds of cuisines and like my favorite thing was to go out and eat with my mom and she’d be like, you were like you’d be four years old, eating friggin live shrimp and people would be amazed and you literally go like this every time you saw food and so food was always something that I loved, but I don’t think it was something that I ever thought this is.

I could create content and because I wasn’t a chef or I didn’t have that kind of that background knowledge to feel like I was credible enough to make foodstuff. But even back then, I did like a deep-fried Oreo video so I kind of would try different things, but I just didn’t think I could get big with food and once TikTok started I did it like if you go scroll all the way to the bottom I did like art resin videos.

Then my sister, again, the one that like kept pushing me, she was like you need to put your lunches beause they’re so cute and I had put my girls’ lunches, like a picture here and there on Facebook or Instagram and people would like it, but then she was like you should actually like record it and post up.

People like it and thought it’s super cute. It blew up and that’s how I got myself into the food space, which I’m so grateful for it because my whole life, I wanted to travel and do the Anthony Bordain thing. I’m sure so many people say that, but it was really, truly one of my dreams to just travel, meet people and eat with them or cook with them or learn from them because I’m not a professional, felt like it happened at the right time at the right moment because that is a space that I wanted to be in.

I just knew that I wanted to show other sides of me so I showed, I just basically show what I love and basically, I just think of it as what would I want to share with my family? What do I want to share with my daughters or my friends or stuff like that?

I started doing more family stuff beause people liked it and my girls like filming with me, especially my oldest, she loves doing everything with me. The other two are kind of like wildcards and then now I just kind of opened myself to more opportunities. 

I do the lifestyle, I do stuff with David. I do stuff I try to put in makeup meetings, hair, tutorials, outfit, videos, I try to keep myself overall just so I’m number one is you don’t want to do the same thing over and over and over where you’re just kind of. It turns into work and it’s boring and as much as I love doing the lunches and doing the food I want to show other things and I think that’s why I have been very lucky to get different kinds of opportunities. I’ve done hosting and presenting and I think that’s because I am showing all these different sides to me.

Maggie: (00:33:23) I love that.  I do notice that there are some food content creators that just show food. They don’t really show their personality too much so it’s kind of hard for the audience to know exactly who they are, unless they, talk on the video or talk on the YouTube video. But I love how you’re so all-encompassing where you’re showing only food, but you’re showing family stuff, you’re showing relationship stuff. Everyone can see the authenticity and see what your lifestyle and personality are like. I think that’s so, so important that you’re just like shining out your personality to your, to your audience because that is really important.

Jessica: (00:34:16) I’ve been very lucky to have made a community of creators and I think that’s what the difference is now between old social media is there’s a lot of no, I’m not going to share my secrets with you beause everyone probably felt like everyone’s just competition and you just have to be better than everyone. I think that’s why a lot of creators now with people like me that I’ve been doing it for a long time we should give back and help other others level up.

Bryan(00:35:16) It’s a sense of abundance and it’s reflected throughout everything. Right? And I’m glad that you encompassed the abundance mindset as well. 

Jessica: (00:36:15) I’m not sure what’s happening at the same time, but then once I started going out like people started recognizing my voice. That’s crazy, I think that was kind of like when I was like, okay, like people actually know who I am and like, especially when I’m with my kids, that’s when I get noticed the most, because obviously it’s me and three kids and then once they recognize the kids and then they kind of put it together.

I just feel I am still normal still, I don’t feel any different in any way. Does it feel like I’m happy and lucky to be doing what I’m doing, but there’s no difference in like how I feel? I don’t see myself as a superstar or anything like that. I feel important I guess because I do get to have this platform and I get to advocate for Asians to raise money for a good cause. I have all these like, opportunities that make it seem really awesome. 

Bryan(00:38:19 I like, I love how level-headed you are grounded. You are so humble, Jessica!

Maggie: (00:38:27)  I want to learn more about like how you manage your time because you talk about your family a lot. A lot of your time has to go to your daughters as well, but you manage your time so well, and I’m sure there are times when you feel stressed. We only have 24 hours in a day but in terms of like time management and what your daily routine is, what does that look like usually? And how do you normally get like your girls too, do videos with you and like kind of gather that would be hey, it’s talk time. We’ve got to do a video. I wanna know what your routine is like every day.

Jessica: (00:39:01) I mean, it’s different pretty much all the time. Right now it’s a little bit different because I’m transitioning, I just hired an assistant to help me with daily stuff and then I also hired a filmer to help me film. So right now my schedule is like trying to figure out, growing and delegating, and trying to maximize myself on top of having these but before it was basically just like I would wake up, do the lunches, get my girls to school, the best part about me and being able to do a lot with my time is my girls are pretty independent.

They get up, they get themselves ready, they make their own breakfast and everything is done for them in the mornings ready to go to school. I don’t have to do anything. I don’t have to wake them up. I don’t have to pick their clothes. I don’t have to make their breakfast.

That gives me the time to make their lunch for the and I think I’m just lucky in the way that my kids are. Self-sufficient like Olive is a little needy, she’s three and she’s already independent. She’s just more bratty. My kids are really helpful and that’s the biggest part of raising your kids to help you out instead of making it harder for yourself. 

Olive would just be with me all the time pretty much and I would have to just work around her being loud and recording other stuff. So throughout the day, cleaning all the time work emails during the day and most of my day is literally just cleaning because that’s what you do when you’re an adult. Imagine doing your laundry times five, that’s a lot like that’s pretty much my day, but my mind is always thinking always like whether it’s like content or I want to do a cookbook and I want to have my own line of bento boxes.

I want to expand to beauty so I’m just constantly, always working in my mind, even though I’m not sitting in front of a computer being on my phone, I’m constantly in my head. Thinking what I’m doing or what I can be doing or what needs to be done, that’s my head all the time. Like, that’s just who I am. 

There are times when I won’t do anything, I’ll give myself three days to literally just be lazy and do nothing, but eat Hot Cheetos. I mean, it’s hard to have a routine and create content. It’s hard to have a routine because especially for me because my content is my life. So it revolves around what I’m doing and where I am and that’s a con and pro because I get to work anywhere basically. I haven’t myself and my kids.

Maggie: (00:42:33) That’s amazing, I’m sure it must be so extremely helpful to have all three of your daughters be self-sufficient, but that just goes to show how well you raised them and when you told us that your daughters ourselves sufficient. That’s exactly how you are and you’re so independent and I’m sure you raised your girls the same way, and that’s why they are the way that they are. Yes, we can’t wait for the cookbook!

Bryan(00:43:05) I’m glad you’re taking time off for yourself.

Jessica: (00:43:07) There was a time at the end of last year where I was nearly burned out and I was just doing, I was just trying to do as much as I could because I got sick with COVID at the beginning of the year and I really couldn’t do anything. I was really, really sick and that made me go insane because I’m just not a person that can sit in the bed for two months and especially the first of the year. You’re like, okay, new goals,  let’s start this new year, and then I got sick. I couldn’t think I literally could not do anything, but that was just basically the universe telling me like, hey, you need to chill out because you’re doing too much. I was literally doing too much and was getting depressed. Then I literally was like, I want to do nothing. I want to quit all this stuff because  I was so tired and I was going through my last relationship to email and dealing with all that stuff because. That’s up to just having someone that wasn’t really celebrating your accomplishments when it was pretty much the best year of my life.

He was just a downer, that was another crappy part of last year it was just the bad relationship and then I got burnt out, got depressed, and then got sick with COVID. I always say I never take anything for granted because I’ve lost everything all at once.

Bryan(00:45:06  We look up to you and admire you a lot! You have so much power and grace to you that. I’m so glad we’re able to capture the podcast today and also I’m so glad you’re on the Asian Hustle Network podcast you are there our definition of the word hustle is right there.

You’re always on the move and I’m so appreciative that you’re taking time off for yourself because I think rest is just as important as husting.

Bryan(00:46:01) I appreciate you sharing so much of your life and being so vulnerable to us in the podcast today and I guess the last question that we have is what advice would you have for yourself?

Jessica: (00:46:30)I don’t regret anything. I’ll redo all of my life if I had a chance to because I don’t take anything for granted and as much as it sucked that’s why I am this person and I want to help out other people in some way.

I guess just maybe you are more confident in me?  I feel like everyone struggles with confidence growing up and just self-doubt. I can definitely say I’m the same person as I have been throughout my whole life., I haven’t really changed much.  I am just more confident in myself and showing people who I am and just trying to be the best person that I can and this life and showing my kids that being good and being kind is good. I don’t know what my advice is. Be yourself, keep being yourself because it’ll work out nice.

Jessica: (00:47:50) That’s what my content is I try to tell people who are so worried about what people think of them and people will love you for who you are and those are the people that you want to be there.

Maggie: (00:48:08) I think we tend to make things more complicated than it has to be, but it really is so simple and just be yourself and just be confident is really the key so much for sharing that. 

Maggie: (00:48:59) We will include all of that in our show notes of this episode, but it was amazing having you on our episode today. Thank you so much for just sharing your story with us and being so vulnerable on this episode. We really enjoyed it.

Jessica: (00:49:12) Thank you guys for having me. It was amazing to me.