December 30, 2020

Welcome to Episode 28 of the Asian Hustle Network Podcast! We are very excited to have Andrew Fung on this week's episode.

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David and Andrew Fung are brothers who have been full-time on YouTube for almost 8 years. Over that time, they've hosted their own TV show, performed and spoken at multiple college campuses, interviewed presidential candidates, dabbled in music, worked with many of the biggest brands, and traveled across the world collaborating with different artists.  

While their YouTube channel is still going strong they've recently started working on a few cool projects outside of YouTube such as a guidebook for Asian America and a food concept in New York.

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Intro: (00:00:00) Hey guys, welcome to Asian Hustle Network Podcast, My name is Bryan. 

And my name is Maggie 

And we interview Asian entrepreneurs around the world to amplify their voices and empower Asians to pursue their dreams and goals.

We believe that each person has a message and a unique story from their entrepreneurial journey that they can share with all of us.

Maggie: (00:00:23) Hi, Everyone welcome to the Asian Hustle Network Podcast. My name is Maggie

Bryan: (00:00:28) My name is Brian. 

Maggie: (00:00:29) And today we have a very special guest with us. His name is Andrew Fung. And along with his brother, David have been full time on YouTube for almost eight years. Over that time they posted their own TV show performed and spoken at multiple college campuses, interviewed presidential candidates. Dabbled in music, worked with many of the biggest brands and traveled across the world, collaborating with different artists while their YouTube channel is still going strong. They've recently started working on a few cool projects outside of YouTube, such as guidebook for Asian America and a food concept in New York. Andrew. Welcome to the show.

Andrew: (00:01:09)  Wow. Thank you. That was, uh, quite the intro. Um, I appreciate it. It was very flattering, but, uh, no. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's cool to connect and it's cool to, I like what you guys do with, um, the group, and I know you guys are working hard to kind of build community and I think that's a really important, so, uh, yeah. Shout out to the Asian wholesale network.

Bryan: (00:01:31) Yeah. Thank you so much for being on the podcast, Andrew. So let's quickly dive into your background and your upbringing. What was that like? 

Andrew: (00:01:38) Well, I think speaking for me and David, uh, we grew up in the South part of Seattle, uh, particularly a place called Ken, but we spent a lot of time in the city.

Um, it wasn't, um, it wasn't like an Asian enclave or anything like went to, uh, grew up at a, a sports school. Um, very focused on, on sports. A lot of like NBA and NFL players would come out of it. So that's kind of the environment we grew up in. I think that's like, Kind of, a lot of our perspective comes from kind of growing up more in a demographically speaking. It was more just like an overall America. Like it was like, you know, mostly white, black, um, a little bit of Asian, a little bit of Hispanic growing up. So not as much in Washington in the Western part of Washington, but. Um, but yeah, I mean, I think, uh, it was just, Seattle was like a really good, like, you know, it's not heavy in the entertainment industry on a large scale, but, uh, what it is good at, it's kinda good at like, it's good for getting your reps in.

You know, um, and letting kind of like spreading your wings out and practicing and kind of diving into things. And I think that there's always like, uh, benefits to starting in a smaller market or kind of training in a smaller market. They say in standup comedy, I was talking to a thing, Allie Wong one time in a long time ago, she was like, yo, it's like really hard to like, get your career started in.

Hey, like she like coming from a smaller place, but with the name from there and bringing it to a larger market, it's, it's better for us. We didn't really like build our channel there, but we just like got a lot of practice there, you know? And, uh, Yeah. I mean, it was good. Uh, but yeah, mostly grew up around like most of our good friends growing up or Southeast Asian or like Viet Filipino, Cambodian.

Um, but like on Sundays we'd go to our Chinese church. Uh, so, and then at school we'd be like competing just with anybody else on like the basketball team and football team. So it was, uh, it was a good mixture of like pretty American upbringing.

Bryan: (00:03:46) Yeah. That's awesome.

Maggie: (00:03:47) Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, growing up in kind of Washington, we know that your YouTube content is mostly based around, you know, Asian identity.

Do you think growing up in Kent has kind of shaped you and David to come up with the content that you wanted to focus your new catalog?

Andrew: (00:04:05)  Yeah, I think, uh, growing up, we always knew we were Asian. Like there was no question and like even being Chinese amongst, uh, non-Chinese. Asians, right? Like there's a, the, yeah. Being Chinese is such a thing, you know, because we're kind of like the default Asian. So, uh, you, you know, that you're Asian when you go to school and stuff like that. And so those thoughts were always in our head, um, and it was always. Kind of a conversation even at a young age. So I can't say like, we've been like all of a sudden one day we moved, like moved to LA and started making Asian content. It was actually something we always did a little bit of, even if we're making like our little, like, you know, our rap songs back in the day, or doing any type of skids or even doing like starting to do stand up comedy in Seattle. A lot of the material was still about identity. Yeah. Um, so our identity has been a thing yeah. For awhile. So, um, it's definitely not a new combo for us to have, although things are always changing in the space. Right. You know what I mean? Uh, yeah. So, yeah.

Maggie: (00:05:10) Yeah. And then how did you and David make your way to New York and like how'd you guys get started in media and entertainment.

Andrew: (00:05:17) Uh, well, we got started definitely in LA in about 2011. Um, and that was like right after college and David had done some things in, uh, Asia and then came back and then pretty much waited for me to graduate real quick. And I graduated a little bit earlier and then, uh, we just moved down and just got to work. And, um, like I still had to fly back while I was working full time, starting to do YouTube. And I started fly back to walk with the rest of my class for my graduation. So that's like how early I was already, like in LA when like my other friends were still like finishing up school. Um, I think it was just, the desire was always there and we just always wanted to get into media and entertainment from such a young age, whether that was like, I think if you guys, David, you might have wanted to be like a, like a music label, ANR, like, those are things that we talked about.

We're not talking about performing. And like, obviously at some point becoming a musician ourselves was just like, guys, this is probably not going to work, but he could still do something for us, but it's not going to be like the way we make it. So we were like, all right. So, you know, at some point you check the dream or like even when we were super young, I think playing in the NBA was a dream.

Obviously you realize quickly, you know, you're pretty far from it. Um, and you start to realize what it actually takes to become a pro athlete or become, uh, even a pro entertainer. So we were more on the path of being a pro entertainer, but, um, for us, yeah, just like man, that hunger was always there for it.

So when we moved to LA kind of knew what we were. What we wanted to do, not exactly how we wanted to do it, but obviously the whole Asian American YouTube scene was popping up, you know, with obviously Wong Fu being one of the, uh, the leaders and originators in that kind of like keeping the community together at that time. And so. Yeah, we just like we're working, full-time just started doing YouTube and, and we found that it was the best way to kind of get our message out, because I think we did some standup in LA when we first got there, but like, we were doing some of the things that we wanted to say, like kind of identity-based material and we just weren't feeling it.

We weren't feeling seen. And we were like, you know what? Two young guys. I don't know. This is like probably not the two young Asian dudes is, I don't know, people not ready to kind of see this as like, it wasn't working with us, you know? But they're, you, you look at the waves that come and it's kinda like, uh, you know, if you guys have ever gone surfing or anything, you can imagine what surfing is like you have to, you, you, you kinda like paddle out on your board. W w until you see that wave come in, and then you try to ride that wave and you ride it out. And then the, sometimes the wave goes down and this is for anybody's Curry, and then you paddle back out and then you just, you're just working. All right. What if you just stay there on cattle, then you probably won't catch the wave, or that's not a good way to catch the wave.

Yeah, but if you're paddling out towards the wave and you see it come, you know, um, that's how you surf, right? So that's kind of what we're doing. We're like, yo, this is what we always want to do it, but here's this YouTube thing. So let's do that. And then, so I think a lot of our, I don't want to make this sound old, but our generation of YouTube creators who've been in the game for probably seven plus years.

A lot of people got into it having like the. Bigger, I guess the mainstream dreams first, because YouTube is not something we grew up with, but then seeing YouTube as the route. Um, and then embracing that and just like, you know, diving into it and loving it, you know? But now you see these young YouTubers that are 20 and they're like, they grew up with it.

Like they grew up on some with some of us, you know,

Bryan: (00:08:56) they grew up your content, bro.

Andrew: (00:08:58) Yeah. It always makes me feel old when I hear that I know to fill from long fool about it. And we all just feel old together, even though they'd been in the game earlier than we did. And some people are like, when I first started, I'm like, Whoa, I, they did it first.

I, we came in second wave, but now there's third and fourth wave, you know? Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I guess the desire is always there. And then we just started traveling in New York and we just, uh, we just always love New York culture growing up in Seattle, like hip hop basketball sneakers. I love the energy there. Um, there's pros and cons of each city, man, big pros and cons of each place. L a S F New York, but, uh, we're just enjoying it.

Bryan: (00:09:41) Yeah. I'm kind of curious too. Like, what was the first YouTube video that you guys made that really put you guys in the map? One viral. It was like, Oh, these are the fun girls.

Andrew: (00:09:50) Um, there was one it's not up anymore. It got really big on Reddit and nine gag at the time. It was like, yeah. It was a roommate. It was kinda like in the same vein of a lonely Island at the time, it was like this goofy music video about, um, two roommates. Anyways, I won't go into detail about it, but it was funny, but really I really, I would say like, uh, uh, Our Jeremy Lin, Lin sanity commentary got us the eyeballs. Like we had content on our channel already, and we knew had done some collaborations with the other YouTubers, but then like, I think getting like repo hosted by ESPN and stuff like that. Um, that was cool. Uh, but I wouldn't say just one single piece, 66 music video, you know, all your home, uh, Bryan, you know, Temple city and st. Gabriel. But, uh, that was kind of like, I guess, cemented us in the, in that kind of Southern California, Asian community. Um, but I wouldn't say it was just one piece, you know, I think it's always like you have a body of work and those pieces drive a lot of eyeballs to you. And they're the ones that usually people. Immediately say, okay. The Asian moms stuff too. That was a big one or the types of Asian grocery. I mean, there's, there's a lot of pieces. I, I would point at, you know, even some sneaker stuff. Like we did our Jordan's one through 29 and that was like still the most viewed air Jordan breakdown video on the internet.

And we did it in her like several years ago. So, yeah. Uh, but no, I mean, I just think we just. It's been going at it, you know, it's not, it's not, it's YouTube is one of those things you have to, like I say, keep paddling and you might get a hit. Maybe that wave is a video that goes viral, but that don't make your career. You know, you still got to go back out there and hit some more waves. Like you don't ride one wave and you're like, Oh, one little wave. You're like, great. I'm done surfing, you know, like you're like, no, I'm trying to get the more, more I serve you. You want to go out there?

Bryan: (00:11:52) Yeah. That's good advice for people starting on YouTube too, because a lot of people get discouraged pretty early on because you know, it was really, really hard to grow in YouTube. And the fact that you said that it's like, there's no such thing as overnight success now you've been pounding the whole time. You've been getting ready for this moment and it's just, yeah. Happened because, you know, opportunities, preparation, literally hats off to you, man.

Maggie: (00:12:13) Yeah. I think you bring up a really great point too, Andrew, and like no one, Brya n and I have found out that the mom and your videos was actually an actress, you know, we were so mindful of the type of content he broke the news. Yeah. That was a big news. Super relatable. So a lot of people can understand it.

Andrew: (00:12:36) Yeah. Yeah. No, it was great. You know, CCU was out, you know, she's an actual actress, but she's kind of a family friend at this point, you know, like, um, we met her through a mutual friend who was, who was working in a Monterey park, the Mitchell Michaline.

But, uh, it was like, I thought she was perfect for it. And. You know, I think it's very funny to play the mom characters in the, in the dead characters yourself. And we've done a little bit of that, but having the real mother there, it was like, it made it so real. Yeah. And like, I remember like my mom texted and our real mom texted me cause she doesn't want to be on camera, but she was like, Oh, you know, it was kind of weird to see you call another woman, mom and. And I was like, what? She's like, Oh no, I love the videos. I was like, because I think that's how real it was even to my mom, even though my mom's not exact, obviously whose mom that hits all those points. I have 10 out of 10. Right. We all see a little bit of it. Um, in our parents. So yeah, definitely. I think it was great because it was, uh, relatable to a lot of immigrant kids. Like I saw comments like, Oh my mom's Ethiopian. Uh, my mom's, uh, uh, Desi moms are the same way or like my Mexican mom's the same way. And I was like, Oh, that's great. So like, yeah. You know, a lot of these things are not solely just for Asians or Chinese school.

Maggie: (00:13:57) Yeah. I think that's where you guys kind of hit that momentum.

Because as soon as you have like one video that's relatable and it blows up, a lot of people see you guys and you guys are put on the map. So, you know, just because you guys have like maybe one video that blows up, you guys will continue to keep that momentum and have other videos blow up as well. And so, you know, in speaking of that, you know, while you guys were in LA.

And because there's so much competition in LA within like media and entertainment. How do you, what would you say would be like the best advice that you can give in terms of like getting into the creative field? Because there's a lot of YouTubers like trying to get into LA, like they feel like they need to get into LA to actually pursue this career. So what would you say would be at advice?

Andrew: (00:14:39) Uh, well, it kind of depends on what kind of content you're doing. I think if your goal, if your ultimate goal is to get into acting, you should probably move to LA. You can do it in New York, but LA is it's going to be just the smarter move overall. But if you, uh, want it, like our friend, Richie Lee, he's killing it, uh, out of like Seattle, you know, and he's doing it with people that we all grew up with. And, uh, he has like a very, very strong high engagement channel on me selling out of his clothing line, Richard Lee collection. And, um, Yeah, I do think obviously it helped that he did live with us in LA in the beginning, but man, he's just taken us so far. And I think like you can do it out of anywhere, but it depends on what you want to do.

Like if you are flowing with your friends back home and they're all, and you can convince them and you can organize it and get them to all buy in, you can have a really fun crew out there. And, uh, that's what, like, I even look at mr. B's all right. He's not Asian, but like he's based on a, I don't know where like Kentucky or North Carolina or something, you guys know what I'm talking about.

Like she's gone. Yes, the biggest channel and, uh, he's not in the big markets and I don't think he would want to be. And I don't even think I see him travel to LA a lot, but then it was something like superwoman, who based out of like, um, the Toronto area when she blew up, she wanted to go to, uh, she moved to LA. Right. And then, because she, she did it. I think she did really want to get into acting and the traditional sides of showbiz. And now she has a show and like, you know, she's with all the celebrities and stuff. So there's different trajectories, but ultimately, man, I think my advice to people is like, yeah, it is a different time now, content, there's a ton of content out there.

It's super saturated, but it depends on what you're looking for. If you want to make your, if you do it to make your life better. And you're like, I do it for my friends. I do it for like, if it, if it blows up and it goes viral. Great. But if it does. Then I still enjoy myself and it improves my, my life. Um, and it, and I, it says what I want to say. Um, and I'm happier and it's positive. It was okay. Just do Instagram or Tik TOK or whatever like that. You know? I don't think it's, uh, I think don't definitely don't look at YouTube. Like it's quick money. That's like, number one, do not go into it. Thinking you're going to make a lot of money. I mean, unless you somehow like.You somehow have figured out the game and you've analyzed it to the point. You're like, okay, I need to like the market, like, you can break it down. Like, Oh, the market doesn't have this. Or like, it doesn't have this type of person who's like gaming and doing this type of content content. And like, I can do it better than them or like, You know, or like, even in YouTube, you know how it is in entertainment, like just someone does the same content, but they're like way better. Yeah.

It's just the way it is, man. It's just. That's the game, you know, um, whoever is more appealing, doesn't have to be as traditional looks, but it can just be whatever your appeal is. So, yeah. Um, my advice is to, if you want to do it for your lifestyle and to make yourself happy, there's nothing wrong with it.

Do that, create, do the podcast, do everything else, you network with people, but if you're really trying to, um, make money, you got to study. I think you've got to think about it. And this is for the people who maybe don't have that magic card knows magic tools that they've been born into, maybe like a certain look or a certain light.

Uh, family. That's super funny. That's easy to, uh, base the channel around or like crazy friends or like, you know what I mean? Not everybody has those elements that like, people love watching. Not everybody even is born. A Jake, Paul, Logan, Paul, you know, by all means they work hard, but they are like crazy people. That are able to, and they had a lot of help on the back end, I think, too. But, um, yeah, like I think some people, they feel like, uh, para was it analysis paralysis, like you just got to make it in and make adjustments. As you put stuff out, you know, um, would you, but if you, but if you're the type of person to analyze the market and space and where you fit, that's great too.

But I think some people get lucky and some people just have that it factor, but for those who don't, who want to create, yeah, it does take a little bit of more trial and error, but, but don't get down on yourself, you know? I mean, like, uh, it's. Nothing's easy, you know, just because there was kind of a bigger window open, you could say when we were, uh, maybe eight, nine years ago, there was a bigger window. Um, that doesn't mean it was easy for us to figure it out or easy for anybody to figure it out. You know, it all just took a lot of work, um, in a way you can say, Oh, there's more information out there. And there's more examples out there to base your decision making off of. So that's the pro and the con, right? Oh, there's more content, more competition. Right. Everybody's all a race for your eyeballs and your attention, but there's more examples to go off.

Maggie: (00:19:34) Yeah. Yeah. That's a really good way to look at it. It just, it just depends on your perspective, you know?

Andrew: (00:19:38) Yeah. And it just depends on what you want on it. Like you guys are running this podcast, like D do you guys believe you're going to be the next Joe? Rogan's like, I just know so many people come up to me and like, yo, I want to be like the next Joe Rogan. I'm like, guys, like. All right. You've got to be the next who's the Joe Rogan's one to 10 out of 10 levels. So what's the two out of 10 look like you got to get there first, you know? And it was just like, I don't know. Yeah. And I don't know, having those expectations starting off, especially as something like podcasting is even healthy. Cause you're just going to be so mad that you're not sure. Well, I'm just like, Oh, you got to just do a good job, add value and love the process. Even for us right now, our views are not as high as they used to be.

Right. Like just, it's just over time, you know, like people have seen us and like there's more content out there, so we're not getting quite the views, but I think as long as we're putting out good content, we're still making a living and we're still like enjoying ourselves. Sales and working on other projects, we just got to love, love and trust the process. All right. Joel Embiid said trust the process.

Bryan: (00:20:42) Yeah, absolutely. I agree. I mean, for us starting the podcast is a means for us to live towards our mission and just amplify field's voice. We enjoy these conversations, you know, we enjoy learning from you. You want to. Have our community learn from you because you are one of the OGs inside the community that people look up to a lot and like super happy to have you.

And the fact that you're like every day is, uh, is a paddle, is an uphill battle and everything to people they see as someone who is very accomplished already. And you may, you may or may not have super powers that they don't have. And they think that way. You know, but at the end of the day, we're all human. We're all human. And this is the part I'm trying to capture and you're right. Enjoy the journey. Enjoy the moment. You know, if you don't enjoy it, what's the point of doing it really, right?

Andrew: (00:21:28) Yeah. No for sure, man. And like, yeah, it's, it's all, uh, you're all biking, uphill, you know, and different people have different bikes. Somebody's got the electric motor. Somebody's just got the fixie and a mature, you're all going up. The Hill, you know, and we're given different tools, but I, one thing I will recommend is always like, if people have a desire to create content and I'll go on my little Gary V bit, I'm like, make it, just make it first. Yeah, shoot it with your friends, your family, whoever you got, you know, if you have something to say, yeah, you'll probably figure out like maybe what you're saying, your hot takes. Aren't hot enough, your, your, uh, your humor isn't, isn't hitting enough, you know? Figure it out, but like, and maybe ultimately you're doing this for the rest of your life is not meant for you, but you have to try it. And I always recommend everybody try it. Cause it's easier to try nowadays. Yeah. Who knows? She might get lucky. Right. But you never know if you don't actually give it a shot. Um, so just, just do it and then make adjustments and. Yeah, maybe you realize it's not for you. That's okay too.

Maggie: (00:22:40) Or maybe along the way you'll learn, you know, what works and what doesn't work and improve from there.

Andrew: (00:22:45) Yeah. I think people need to be rooted in, in real life still. I know, as, as digital, as the world is, and at a time when I was young, we were considered very digital kids. Right. We were like downloading from Napster, making burn CDs back in like six, seven, eight. Um, we were like on that way before, cause I as like an engineer, so we just had like a computer and internet before our friends did. Um, so we were like very techie, you know, back then. And then now I look at these kids, I'm like, Oh shoot, man. They're like, okay. I feel a little bit old sometimes, but they like, man, it's, there's so many opportunities, but I don't think people like should always base because some kids they grow up like with Instagram and that number or the subscriber numbers. Maria, like, you know, those numbers, that pretty much quantify how much people like you and how popular you are.

Oh, you got a smaller number than me. Like I knew in the early days of YouTube and still to this day in a way it's probably like that, like all got 10 , 200 K should I collab with this person or something? Like, there was always, like, I felt like there was that feeling and, um, Yeah, I, I just like people at the end of the day, you live a real life. We're not in the, a matrix yet. And you know, you know, and, uh, we're not reaching those times yet. And I think when people still focus on human connection and relationships in the community, You don't want those things to break down, uh, despite everything becoming so digital, because it is true. Like, I'm sure you guys saw the social dilemma or stuff like that. It's just, it can really mess with you. If you just worry about what, like anonymous people with 140 characters say I'm like, you don't be sure. Emotions off that, like I get it and that can affect it and they can even speak some true sometimes, but don't like, let it affect you because they don't know you.

Maggie: (00:24:45) Yeah. What I like about you and David though, is that you guys don't really put too much like care and consideration to like number of likes number of followers, but you guys care more about the message that you guys are getting across. Right. And. Bigger picture. Yeah. Being authentic. You guys are like super real. And that's what I think a lot of people like about you too.

Bryan: (00:25:04) Yeah. I also think they also touch upon mental health a lot in this segment. It's yeah. A lot of people, as you mentioned, are judging there's their self-esteem is attached to the videos that we make and the numbers of likes and engagement, the yeah. You know, and I, it was really good advice to keep it separate. No, they don't know who you are. Don't let them affect your attitude, your mood keep doing you. You know, everyone is unique. Everyone has a purpose in this world. That's how we feel.

Andrew: (00:25:31) Yeah, no, I think, I think it comes from also knowing some older people, like we know a guy out here, he runs some pizza shops and he was like, uh, yeah.

He's Turkish immigrant. And he comes from a really tough background when he first got here, you know? And, uh, the name is hockey from champion pizza. Shout out to hockey. He'd always be like, Hey guys, like, like, what are you stressing about? Are you, are you happy? Are you happy? Are you healthy parents? Good? Are you good? Like you guys have good relationship. You just. Doing your thing, like be happy. Like, and then I was just like, it was something that simple when you hear it from a guy who was very poor at one time when they first got here, he was like, yeah, man, like, no, that's another way to think about it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I have friends whose, you know, parents have passed on and like, you know, whatever, even with COVID and pandemic and everything, it's just like, you kind of think you gotta step back and look at it and be like, just be thankful. Like, yo, I still got my health and I'm still can do the things I want to do. Why am I letting, Oh, I got a hundred likes instead of, I want a 200 likes and you're like, let that affect your mental health. Like yeah, like. Read it, you can read it like an algorithm on shit. Well, why didn't this get as many likes? Well, maybe because you did this or it was blurry or the coloring wasn't right. Or like the caption wasn't popping. Yeah. You can look at it analytically and break it down. That's good. And make adjustments, but like, you know, uh, I recommend people still live a regular life. Like not have to be a regular life, but a real life. How about that?

Maggie: (00:27:06) Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that advice. Yeah. Social media is, is a means to, you know, making sure that we have income, but it's not everything, you know, and there's much more important things that actually matter, like family, friends, you know, your, your mental health, your happiness and everything like that.

Andrew: (00:27:25) And I hope people like can see it in our channel where we work with so many different types of people. I mean, there's a lot of people in our videos who are not trying to be pro entertainers or they're not other influencers. There's just people like dudes that we hoop with at the park in New York that were like, Oh man, you're like, you're Dominican. He's like, yeah. I'm from dr. By while I was like, yo, can we do a Dominican food video? You know, like, and it's like, You know, um, and so we're able to like set people up and just incorporate so many different people into our videos. And they're not only our. Best friends are like, they're not only the biggest, most popular influencers, you know, I think for us, that's us, uh, just kind of like in a way, the message in that it's just, Hey man, one, everybody can, uh, do something cool on the internet and you don't have to be an influencer, right.

To like everybody. Yeah. Something to add, like in three, like hoop. Who cares, who was the influencer? Like these are real people and the authenticity like comes through, you know? Yeah.

Maggie: (00:28:31) Yeah. I'm very curious. You know, how do you continue to find inspiration for your content and what are the things that you typically look for when you're, you know, like doing outreach and partnering with people for entertainment?

Andrew: (00:28:47) I mean, A lot of it is, um, between me and David. It's kind of like things we want to do, or if we have like an urge to say something and like, David will be like, ah, man, I wanna, you know, we should do like, or we met somebody who would even be good to help out on this video. Like, um, Marco who's been showing up in our video.

He sees a real Sicilian New York. Guy, you know, from, from the lower East side, born and raised, he's just an authentic New York guy. And we were just playing basketball and we met him and were just like, yo, this guy's funny. Like he's charismatic. And the word we had just said, we just connected and became friends. And then, uh, he's just helping like do these Italian videos and I'm like, Oh great. Now I got an Italian friend to help me like go through. Italy Italy experienced Italian food on an, on a level that I may have not without him, you know, in his stories of his Italian family are just so hilarious. And I think that is like inspiration to meet other people, you know, that just like, you're like, Oh, This, this could be fun. Like I like hanging out with this person already. If this person just, you know, does a little research and makes a few phone calls, like it'll be a good video, you know? Or at least it'll be fun. Yeah. And authentic. Yeah. And like I said, like, I think some people do yeah. Or either do videos only by themselves, or like only with other influencers.

Yeah. And I totally understand that because, um, Those people are still alive and they're still in the same space. I think there's drawbacks to working with people who are not in the same space as you for us, you know, um, where we're kind of strong in these real friends or characters that we know, uh, to be in videos, but they're not necessarily like in the game, like in the social media game or in the content creation game, full time.

Um, so maybe they're not as available or they're like, yo, I work a regular job. I'm off at 3:00 PM. We got, you know, like, I'm like, Oh cool. As opposed to working with people who are like in LA, especially, you know, there's a lot of actors and like, you know, life's a little more chill out there. I think don't always have to work as hard, but like they're a little bit more free, a little bit more available, you know?

Um, but yeah, so there's, there's pros and cons, but like. I think for us personally, this is just how we like to do things that it's just, it's so beneficial just to get that like realness out there.

Maggie: (00:31:04) Yeah. Yeah. Definitely authenticity. And it's knowledgeable too. Cause you're like learning about other people's cultures.

Andrew: (00:31:10) Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would, I'd met, I'm not even, I'm not a master at the internet. Like, you know, I haven't even tweeted really anything in like so long we'd obviously are not focused solely on our Instagram. Yeah. You know, to like build up our following there, you know? And like I'm not constantly posting one every day, you know? Um, so I, I could be better. Like, so when you guys like, kind of like, it's funny. Cause when people like talk to us and like, Oh, you guys like experts OGs. I'm like, man, I've been in the game for awhile. I'm not like a master at it. I might know and have a perspective on it, you know, but I'm not a master at it.

I would, would've never say that.

Bryan: (00:31:52) I like, we love our humble yards. Yeah. Yeah.

Maggie: (00:31:53) Yeah. What are yours and David's plans and goals for the next five years?

Andrew: (00:31:57)  Good question. I feel like people used to ask us that six, seven years ago, even when we first YouTube, like we first went officially, full-time in YouTube and they were like, so we're now, what are you guys doing in five years?

And I was like, yo, I'm just doing YouTube, chill out, you know? But now after, you know, sometime I think that. Uh, I have a slightly different answer where I'm like, you know, I still imagine doing YouTube and creating content. I don't think YouTube is going away anytime soon. Um, but definitely doing other stuff. Like we were working on a book right now. So, uh, uh, just working, you know, uh, got a writer to help work on the book proposal. Not the entire book yet. It was, uh, you know, that's like a whole nother, like section to it. Um, but yeah, beefing up the book proposal right now. And then like kind of working at this, on this food concept in New York and yeah, opening restaurants take a long time, take a lot of attack power.

Uh, it requires some team building and these are things that like knowing real people helps in, but I'm not even gonna lie. Like if we just spent the next like two months solely networking and. And in that, in the food industry, we probably get a little bit farther along, but since we still have the digital stuff, you know, that's why we're doing a lot of food content right now for a couple of reasons.

One, I do honestly find it interesting. I think people should, um, can take something away from it. Uh, to New York has so many great passionate. Chefs and, um, small businesses and even big businesses and big restaurants that you can draw a lot of like knowledge and inspiration from. Um, but yeah, three for us. It's just like, I learned a lot every time I talk to owners and stuff like that. So it's enriching for me. It's kinda like doing this podcast or you guys it's like. Yeah, you want to put on my voice, but also you're gaining something from doing this, you know, you're getting knowledge, right. Or at least a different perspective. Right. And then having a conversation that we would maybe not usually have. Right. We're not, we're not necessarily doing this. So I think. Uh, that's good. And I think anything that, uh, improves your life and makes you smarter and maybe teaches you something, uh, that's also really important to do. And so that's kind of like one thing that we're doing, we might start this, uh, this, uh, uh, I actually, I, we didn't announce it on our channel officially.

So technically I'm telling you some stuff that we didn't announce on the channel officially of doing a food concept. Yeah. So, but, uh, yeah. That's like something that we're, we're doing. And, um, yeah, it does require a lot of like real life people. Cause like, you know, if you need people making like to help you make the food or like serve other people, you know, it's not a digital business.

We're not building an app. Yeah. Yeah, we are, we would be selling food to people. Hand-in-hand so

Bryan: (00:34:46) that's awesome. You graduate,

Andrew: (00:34:48) if anybody's interested, you know, feel free to hit us up there in New York and, uh, are interested in something like that to hear more. Um, but yeah, we were probably going to start a series on our channel, maybe like kind of like updating people on, on. A process of that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The book, the restaurant and the channel, like always still doing that. We might, might get a dog soon. I'm pleased you guys put on the channel. I know on the channel are personalized a lot and you're not, we're not that I don't know. I think, I think there's pros and cons of being such a personal channel. If people love you, your content, you feel like people love you. And you're, they are in a way more engaged to personalities and, uh, uh, but you've see the downfalls where like, if people start to dish you, then you feel like you're dissing you as a person, as an individualized soul.

And I'm like, Ooh, that could be very like, Yeah. So for us, uh, we, we always will. I mean, you know, if we ever need to talk about ourselves and get personal more, we have that in our bag. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Bryan: (00:36:00) That's very valuable.

Maggie: (00:36:02) Yeah, definitely.

Bryan: (00:36:03) Yeah. Yeah. Andrew, how can our listeners learn more about you and find while was, was, you know, more about you.

You mentioned some of your social media,

Andrew: (00:36:14) you get to know us through our Instagram stories because we fired off pretty quickly and they're like pretty real. Um, and we might even make some jokes on there that we don't even make on the channel. Because the channel is kind of like it's content that gets edited, you know, and like goes through somewhat of a process. So, yeah. Um, uh, but yeah, I mean, Instagram stories would check out the channel if you haven't in a while. Um, we just think everybody who's, uh, who's seen us over the years and a lot of people haven't been watching us for a while. I understand sometimes they're like, you know, I grew up on you and then I'm like, okay. And then they like, don't. And they haven't been watching anything recently. That's fine. Um, but I think if you check out the channel, I think everybody will find something that they, uh, that they might like, but, you know, it's tough to keep an audience for this long, man. I'm not gonna lie to you, man.

Maggie: (00:37:07) And David,

Andrew: (00:37:11) you always talk about it with Phil. Like, do you talk to them about it too though? Yeah. We're the, we're the old guys.

Bryan: (00:37:19) Let's do it with cons, but yeah. Appreciate you being on the show so much, Andrew,

Maggie: (00:37:22) it's amazing hearing about your story and just

Andrew: (00:37:24) appreciate it guys Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fine. It was good. Like, and I hope that, uh, yeah, I hope as many people listen to his podcasts as ever, man, I hope, I hope it's a good episode.

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