April 17, 2021

Welcome to Episode 59 of the Asian Hustle Network Podcast! We are very excited to have Chatri Sityodtong on this week's episode.

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Chatri Sityodtong is the Founder, Chairman, and CEO of ONE Championship (ONE), Asia’s largest global sports media property in history with a broadcast to 2.7 billion potential viewers across 150+ countries around the world. ONE is a celebration of Asia's greatest cultural treasures, martial arts, and esports. Through the magic of storytelling and the power of media, ONE is on a mission to unleash real-life superheroes, celebrate values, ignite dreams, inspire nations, and change the world.

Sityodtong is a self-made entrepreneur and lifelong martial artist from Thailand. He is also the star of the Asian edition of The Apprentice, the award-winning, global reality TV series. His rags-to-riches life story has inspired millions around the world on BBC, CNN, Bloomberg, CNBC, and other major media. He was named “Asia’s King of Martial Arts” by the Financial Times, and ranked as "Asia's 2nd Most Powerful Person in Sports" by FOX Sports. Sityodtong was recently selected as one of "Asia’s Top 100 Business Leaders" by Business Insider.

Inducted into the Black Belt Hall of Fame in 2019, Sityodtong has over 35+ years of martial arts experience. He is a certified senior Muay Thai instructor under the legendary Kru Yodtong Senanan. He also holds a Purple Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Master Renzo Gracie.

Chatri Sityodtong holds an MBA from Harvard Business School and a BA from Tufts University.


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Intro: (00:00:00) Hey guys, welcome to Asian Hustle Network Podcast, My name is Bryan. 

And my name is Maggie 

And we interview Asian entrepreneurs around the world to amplify their voices and empower Asians to pursue their dreams and goals.

We believe that each person has a message and a unique story from their entrepreneurial journey that they can share with all of us.

Maggie: (00:00:23) Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Asian hustle network podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us. His name is Chatri Sityodong and is the founder, chairman and CEO of one championship Asia's largest global sports media property in history where they broadcast to 2.7 billion potential viewers across 150 plus countries around the world. One is a celebration of Asia's greatest cultural treasures, martial arts, and e-sports Chatri is a self-made entrepreneur and a lifelong martial artists from Thailand. He is also the star of the Asian edition of the apprentice. The award-winning global reality TV series. His rags to riches life story has inspired millions around the world and ducted into the black belt hall of fame. In 2019, Chatri has over 35 years of martial arts experience. Chachi holds an MBA from Harvard business school and MBA from Tufts university Chachi. Welcome to the show.


Chatri: (00:01:22)  Thank you Maggie and thank you, Bryan. Really appreciate the time you've taken out.


Bryan: (00:01:27) Yeah. I mean, we're super excited. We're super excited to have you on the podcast today, to be honest, like we were reading Alto, Bashi like five, five or six years ago. Right. We never thought that we have the opportunity to meet you now.

Chatri: (00:01:41) Really bizarre. Wow.


Bryan: (00:01:44) And because I used to do wrestling, so I follow MMA. Now it was popping up all over Asia, you know? Right, right. There you are today. Happy to have in the show.  


Chatri: (00:01:55) Yeah. Thank you bro.



Bryan: (00:01:57) Yeah, that's the Christmas.  


Maggie: (00:01:58) Yeah. Awesome. So let's dive right into a Chaudhry. Where did you grow up and what was your upbringing like?


Chatri: (00:02:05) I grew up in Thailand, um, and uh, I grew up in a well to do a family when I was a young child and, uh, Uh, my mom was a homemaker at a younger brother and we live in Bangkok and we split our time between Bangkok and patio. Patio is a beach town, um, uh, uh, an hour and a half away from Bangkok. And, uh, I would say that, you know, I lived a very blessed childhood, um, although not blessed from my parents because I was such a problem, a troublemaker, you know, um, I just remember being in the principal's office a lot, getting detention, getting suspended for fighting. Um, a lot of, lot of dumb, dumb shit, you know, when I was a kid and yeah, I literally, my mom became like best friends with the principal because I was sent there every day or whatever it is. Um, but yeah, I mean, uh, you know, um, it was, uh, I have just an incredible memories of, of my parents and my family, and that's how I want to remember things. And that's how I looked back on everything. Um, because you know, in life we have the choice always to. Um, well, the good things or bad things happen. We, we have the choice. I look at situations and people and see the best of them as opposed to see the worst, you know, um, uh, my father passed away a few years ago and, uh, you know, long story cut short in the Asian financial crisis. My father, uh, went bankrupt and we lost the house in the car and, uh, he abandoned, the family just disappeared. And so I didn't see him for decades. And, uh, I had a lot of anger, you know, a lot of anger. Um, cause you know, when you watch your mother cry out of hopelessness and you know, eating one meal a day and um, just, it was heartbreak, you can. Right. And, and, uh, so I, the heartbreak turned into a lot of anger and hatred towards my father because out like where did he go? You know? And in an Asian household, Back then. And even now, you know, the man of the house is supposed to take care of them, the house and, or, or the, the, the money and then the money am I supposed to take care of the house and the kids. And so my mom didn't have any job qualifications or an issue focus, a hundred percent of the kids. And so that quote unquote, contract that marriage, you know, my father didn't live up to it. And, uh, so when, um, I held like a lot of anger from it for many, many years, and then, but it was around, uh, maybe six or seven years ago. I decided, uh, to reach out to him to find him, cause I hadn't seen him for so long. And so I reached out to relatives and eventually found him. Um, and he was dirt, poor living in a small little, um, you know, apartment, you know, just really just poor. And, um, he was alone and when I saw him, he was so. Frail and old, and it just kinda took me back like, wow. You know, cause my image of him, it was way back, you know? And um, then we, we went out and had dinner and had a heart-to-heart talk of the dad, you know, why did you leave us? And all, all these years, I thought he abandoned us because he just abandoned us because threw us away like garbage, you know? And he's, , you know, as an Asian man, um, I was very ashamed that I could no longer provide for my family. I could even put food on the table if we couldn't pay for education. And you know, every day went by and see you was, was killing me. You know, he was very ashamed of himself and, you know, spawned to a crisis and disappointment, different ways. And my father's response, he wasn't proud of it. He decided to run away because the pain was so overbid, caring for him. And uh, yeah. You know, a few years later he passed away and at his funeral I gave a speech. And then I started thinking about afterwards, like all the good that he did as opposed to the bad. So he was the guy who introduced me to my tie when I was nine years old by taking me to Lupini stadium, which is the Mecca of tie. You know, he was the guy who took me to the beach, my first speech ever, um, in Patea, um, and, and, and gave me give birth to my love of the ocean. He was the first guy to, you know, inspire me to be a dreamer because he was, well, his career did wasn't success in the end. He was always a dreamer and, uh, and so many other things. Right. And, and, and it gave me a blessed childhood. So we can remember the bad about people. We remember the good same thing for situations, and I've just learned over, over time, um, that I held on to too much anger for too long. And that. No, one's perfect. Actually, we, we were all flawed in our own ways and, and we're all works in progress. Right. And, um, I'm sure if my father could relive his life again, he would have chose a different path. Um, ACMI, I'm a conversation, but yeah, I thought we had time to, to, to, uh, rekindle the relationship and work on it. And then he could eventually moved to Singapore and, you know, and we could work on it and he did come to Singapore for a visit. And then, uh, he went back and then a few months later I got a call, um, that he had a stroke and then he was paralyzed. I mean, the worst way you can die. He was paralyzed. Um, his whole body was paralyzed, but his mind was 100% alert. So he could not move except for blinking his eyes. He had to live that way for two years. Um, and then he passed away. Um, so I would go visit him at the hospital in Thailand and stuff, but. You know, that's another lesson I learned is it's never, as you can always forgive those who hurt you, forgive yourself. Um, you know, say, I love you because you just never know, man. You just, you know, I thought that we, I reconciled with him and Hey man, for the next 10 years, I get, I get to learn about him. He gets to learn about me and we can be friends again. And, but in reality, you know, months later he had a stroke and could not speak anymore and was completely paralyzed. So, um, yeah, just another, just another lesson, you know.


Maggie: (00:08:46) Wow. Thank you for sharing that story. Tall tree. I, I just want to say, you know, I'm sorry to hear about your father. And I think that, you know, it takes a lot of courage for you to actually reach out and to go find him. You know, it takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of strength and I think that. In different generations, you know, especially in the Asian culture, there's a really big thing about saving face, right? Your father must've felt like, you know, because he couldn't feel like he could provide for the family. He most likely, you know, was a little bit scared. And I I'm sure that, you know, because you guys had the chance and opportunity to, to rekindle, that probably meant the world to him.

Chatri: (00:09:32) Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. You're right. You know, that, it's a, cause in many ways I'm Americanized, right? I mean, yes. I grew up in Thailand and I'm half Japanese, but I did spend a considerable amount of time in the States. So I kind of have a Western mindset as well as an Eastern mindset. So, you know, um, but I can shut my, you know, my father is really, really, really Asian grew up, you know, in Asia and spent all this time here. So. You're right. Saving face. I mean, I'm sure even for your parents, right. At the same as savings base is a big deal in Asian culture. It just is. And I'm just one of these things that you never, um, you never think of it as a weakness, but it actually is a weakness that the fact that Asian culture, you don't communicate, you know what I mean? You don't, you don't parents and grandparents don't communicate the weaknesses to their kids, you know? Right.


Bryan: (00:10:27) Yeah. And that's that, I mean, that's so powerful. And just you talking about, you know, us being flawed as human beings, you know, because from outside perspective, as, uh, some, some people look at you as early entrepreneurs and like, man, child tree must have some sewer, some sort of super power. He knows it all. He never feels insecure anyways, but that's not true at all, bachelor at all, you know, like, yeah.


Chatri: (00:10:54) It doesn't matter. We were all playing the same game. It's just different levels. And the struggle is the same. I'm telling you, man, I've been dirt, dirt poor, and I had different insecurities or different fears of different doubts. And, you know, every level has always been like those fears or Dustin insecurity has changed more into something else. Right. And just as your dreams morph into something else. Um, so yeah, I mean, uh, I think, um, well think that from the outside, you know, everything's hunky Dory, everything's great. Or, or it was easy or, you know, like people only see the success of the fame of the money or whatever is, but in reality, you know, we all struggle. We all have to, you know, fight ourselves, you know, our, our, our doubts, our insecurities, our fears, and, um, and our flaws. Right. So.



Bryan: (00:11:46) Definitely. Yeah. What are podcasts or you tried to really highlight that in the, every entrepreneur that we are human, every stage is new playing game. And does it really inspire the next generation entrepreneurs that they can get it too? Cause the first time we have it's like, I don't know if I'm worthy of doing this. I don't know if I can do it, you know, but by hearing your story, like, okay, like tall trees, Hema, like I am like a


Chatri: (00:12:09) hundred percent, there is no difference to me and you, Bryan, are you Maggie? None. It's just, you're younger than me, that's it? You know? But like I love what you guys are doing, uh, with, you know, I wish we had this wonder younger, you know, aggregating, uh, globally, you know, um, a real Asian, uh, powerful Asian network of rising young superstars as well as, you know, accomplished individuals ready and basically, yeah. Sharing knowledge and experiences and, and help and lending a helping hand wherever we can. I think that's a, a very powerful thing, you know?



Bryan: (00:12:43) Yeah. Yeah. We want to dive deeper into your story too. So your dad brought you the love of martial arts and you know, you listen to other podcasts. You mentioned that back in high school, you weren't the best student, but what I want to learn, like what was the turning point for you, where you realized that you have to step it up academically, you have to be able to provide for your family. And we understand that you have a lot of struggles and props to you for taking care of your mom and having her stay out your Harvard dorm and everything. But he's wanting to know, like, what was a time where you face that internal, I don't know, darkness that you face, or like, Oh man, who am I, what am I doing? How am I going to out get out of that situation? Because the best entrepreneurs are the ones pushing against the wall and he pivots quick, quickly. Right? Like, do you have that too?


Chatri: (00:13:28) Right. So, so, um, I remember very well, actually it was, uh, One night. Um, and, uh, my mom was, the lights were off for whatever reason and, and, and my mom was in the corner crying and, uh, she thought I wasn't paying attention or I was asleep. And, um, and I, you know, I'd never seen my mom cry until that, that, that phase in our life. And at first I was wallowing as well. You know, I was like, um, what am I gonna do in my life? And, um, you know, we're going to be poor and this is it. And I kind of almost like, you know, you go through the whole phase of denial and acceptance and all that. Right. And, um, but when I saw my mom really just crying, uncontrollably, that memory, it just triggered something in me. Like I have to. Either. I'm going to sit here and, and we will end up being, God knows what, you know, I don't know what would have happened, or I get my shit together and I do something about it. And that was one big memory that I had that I remember it was a turning point, but I still didn't have a plan. I didn't know what I was going to do. I just had the, instead of feeling sorry for myself, I just had this snap thing of like a fighting spirit, you know? Um, and, uh, another point was a few years later, uh, was in, um, my Harvard dorm room where my mother slept on the bed and I slept on the floor and it's a really tiny, single, you know, dorm room. And my mom was talking about all these dreams about, you know, she's like Chucky when, when all this is done, I want to go live in New York city and, you know, an emptying mom wa. How do you even know where even to get it and get out of the situation? First of all, I need to find money for next semesters school fees, you know, second of all, like you're living in the dorm and I might not make it academically here. I might get kicked out. Like, you know what mom, like, it's crazy. Right. Um, and, uh, but my mom was just always dreaming and believing, you know? And, and, and, uh, maybe she was doing it consciously. Maybe it was subconscious. I don't know, but it, you know, it, it, it made me, despite me being upset at that moment, mom stopped dreaming. It actually made me, um, visualize that, you know, there is a way out that I can fight through this that I can, and, you know, it was my mom's idea for me to apply to Harvard, uh, you know, and. It's crazy because I was not like some valedictorian or I was never like some rock star student. I was always like on the bottom third in elementary, middle school and like high school, um, on my class, um, I don't know, like a 2.7 GPA, something like that. Right. Maybe lower. And, and, you know, like I said, I, I was sent to the principals and got into a lot of fights and all that kind of stuff. I was not the model student, so I had no confidence in even applying or even if I got in and we had no money. And, and what makes you think I could even survive? You know, that was my mindset. And, um, for whatever reason I did get accepted, um, because I] guess maybe they were looking for somebody from Thailand. I have no idea, you know, maybe I was feeling a quarter, you know, in Thailand, they're like, okay, we've got to take this guy. You know? I mean, I scored high on my test. I mean, I had, I had good essays and stuff like that. I grew up in day people, a lot of people believe in me, but, um, so. Uh, you know, who knows? I mean, I, when I got the look on that, that it was pure luck, but I've tried to talk my way out of it in every way possible, because I was like, I told my mom, like, mom, this is a mistake. They made a mistake. Uh, you know, and then like, literally, like it was not a celebration. It was more like, well, mom, what I do wanna do is borrow a hundred thousand dollars and then get kicked out of school. Then I, then we're in bigger trouble than we are right now. Um, then I thought, yeah, you know, and then I thought, I thought, you know, even if I go, where am I going to find the money? Like, how am I going to graduate wait financially? So I was literally like kicking and clawed my way against going. Like I said, mom, this is a dumb idea. Know it's a really dumb idea. And my mom just said, try treat. You're the oldest son, I believe in you. And you'll find a way. So when I returned back to America, I had one suitcase with all my life belongings and a thousand dollars. And that first week at Harvard, I was so intimidated by everybody. I obviously kept my, my, my family background and poverty secret. Cause I was so ashamed of it, but I was, um, got first week, you know, I was so intimidated by everybody. And I remember thinking, man, I don't belong here, man. Like, I'm not some like some smart kid or anything. I was like, man, I don't belong here. And everyone, at least on the surface seemed to be well-to-do right. I was one of the poorest kids in our class. And uh, that first week I had to scramble, look for jobs, look for scholarships, look for furniture. I didn't know how everything worked, you know? Um, and uh, luckily I did find all of that. You know, I was a tutor at Kaplan, um, for the GMAT, you know, I wasn't Moya Thai teacher, you know, delivering food. I did whatever I could and uh, Uh, was lucky to get some financial aid and scholarship and all that stuff. So, um, you know, it's just one of those things that when you're in survival mode and instead of just worrying on myself, I guess that's when I realized I learned about fighting for something bigger than yourself. I just imagine if it was just fighting for myself, I might not have taken that risk. I might not have gone. Right. Cause it's like, I have no one else, but watching your mother suffer, watching her cry and, you know, sacrificing and having one meal a day and just, you know, and there was no, literally like, no, because she's not like she didn't have a job in her whole life. She never know anything. So the onus was on me to make something. So, um, but when you have something to fight for, that's bigger than yourself. And that's also the time that I learned that, you know, We all have fears, doubts, and insecurities, and they can become self-imposed walls of a prison. Just think back, like, what if I listen to my fears, doubts and insecurities at that moment, if I said, you know what, you're not good enough to apply, or even if I did apply and I got in, you're not good enough to actually graduate. You don't have the money. You don't have the academic, uh, um, mind to do, to, to graduate. If I had listened to those fears, doubts and security, I would have taken a very different path than maybe my life today, who knows what it would be. Maybe I would be like, I don't know, like the bottom runs in society in Thailand scraping my way through, like, I don't know what would happen to my mother and. All that. And so for me, that's why I love, you know, talking about these things, uh, for the next generation, is that, look, we're all going to have fears, Johnson and securities. And even to this day, I have fears. Dusk has insecurities about different things, right? And it's, I always say like, you know, we're not put on this earth, you know, to succumb to our fears and insecurities, we're put on this earth to overcome them so that we can unleash our greatness in life and hopefully be in a position to give back more than you, you you'd receive. Right. And that's the ultimate, um, meaning of life. And in my opinion, um, you know, and when I was dirt poor, I thought, man, you know, I just want to make a crap load of money. So my mom never has to worry about money or food ever again. And I thought, naively, I thought, man, if I become a multimillionaire, I will just that's it. I'll be happy and I equated naively money to happiness and it all, it wasn't until years later that I found out that actually it's not about that. You know, of course I was grateful that I could provide for food and stuff from my mom and all that stuff. And, and, um, and, and definitely one of my most proud moments in life, one of my most happiest memory I have, one of the happiest is when I surprise my mom by buying a house, buying a condo in New York city. Um, obviously that was a huge moment for me in my life, you know? And, and I remember it so well, it was like a Sunday afternoon. I brought my mom to this nice high-rise condo and took her up and she was surprised and opened the door. And she's like, what is this? You know? And I said, mom, this is your home. And she didn't quite understand. And then she broke down in tears and then I broke down in tears and we hugged and you could just see years and years of my mom's struggle. Just leave her in her, in her tears as tears, streamed down her face. Um, and that for me was one of the greatest gifts I could ever give. You know, so obviously money does matter. Um, and I wouldn't have been able to do that, but I guess my point is for all of us to truly live fulfilled lives, where we have true meaning and there's passion and purpose, we have to really think deeply in our hearts, in ourselves about who we want to be in the future, what it is that really truly defines success. And like today I can tell you, I'm like, So fulfilled. And so I've had good, bad and ugly days just like everybody else, but I'm genuinely fulfilled and happy inside. And you know, when I graduate from Harvard, actually in the second year of Harvard, sorry, in the last year of Harvard, Uh, a friend of mine convinced me to do a startup with him. And my mom was very against yeah. In San Francisco even have no money. And, and the plan was for you to get a safe job with a big company, right. A fortune 500 company and just security and long story short, we went to Silicon Valley and rented a small apartment, and that was our, our office and our house. And my, and I couldn't afford a bed. So my mom and I slept in sleeping bags on the floor. And then we eventually grew to eight employees in that apartment. And the eight employers would come. We, we, we, um, we bought these makeshift, uh, desks at home Depot where you could just fold them and open them, you know, and then we would fold them that night. And then my mother and I was sleeping, we were living on, you know, microwave frozen meals were a dollar, dollar 50 at the time. And, uh, um, just looking back at that, you know, journey, um, I get, of course I can look back at it finally now, because of the success I've achieved afterwards. But going through that again, I had no idea where it was going to go, what was going to happen. Uh, but then, you know, when I look back at it, like, how the hell could I do that? Right? You go with no money, you know, and, and, and loans and service. I, you know, I was not in a good financial situation at all, for me to start. I started, but I had no money. Then that was a point I had no money and my co-founders, they had no money. We were all poor. Like, you know, so we had like two or $3,000 to our name and that was it, you know? And we're starting to accompany, you know, it was just when I think back when I was just crazy. Um, but that's also why, you know, the love of money mother, you know, she was very upset at first, but then after she could see that I really wanted to do it. You know, what a mom would, we'll, we'll sleep in the office floor with her son, you know, and his sleeping bag. Right. Um, just to help him chase a dream. Um, when obviously at that point I could have gotten a, a safe job anywhere because I had the credentials to go and get a six-figure job safely somewhere. But instead I was still slumping it. But anyways, fast forward, like, you know, I, um, later on, uh, after I sold that company, I thought to myself, you know, what are the three greatest. Passions in my life that I've had. And then, so the first was a martial arts have always been my greatest passion and I've always been fascinated with entrepreneurship, you know, just because just watching my father.

Um, and the third was actually whatever, it was like the nerd in me, I love reading books about Peter Lynch and the stock market, and then Warren buffet. And I thought, man, you know, I have a little bit of money. It's not, I didn't have enough money to retire forever, but I had little bit of money. I'm like, what should I do next? And, uh, the thought was, okay, well, why don't I just do something I like, which is stock the stock market. So that's what got me into wall street. And eventually I started my own hedge fund, which ended up growing to $500 million in assets. And that's when I thought, like I had quote unquote made it meaning that I was making tens of millions of dollars a year. I was. Very successful by any standard, any stretch, including my own. And yet every day I felt a little bit of emptiness and I, and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I just thought that, you know, maybe everyone feels this way when they, when they work or whatever. Right. And on Sunday night I would get the Sunday night blues where I would like, you know, I didn't really want to go to work, but it was my own company, you know? So how can you, how can you not want to go to work if it's your own company? And so I had a record year, I think I was 35 or 36 at the time. And, and then I went down to sushi restaurant near, near, near, near the, um, really office by myself. And, um, I was celebrating my mind and adrenaline rushing and then I just hit me like, okay, so we buy more houses, more cars. And what's the point. I can only sleep in one bed and actually, I don't really drive a car in Manhattan, you know, I didn't drive really, you know it, and so I dunno, I just started thinking a lot of things and then I just was eating myself and I got this cold sweat came over and I'm like,  this is going to be the rest of your life.Yes, of course it on the outside may look, Oh, come on, try it. You're you're, you're, you're making a lot of money. How can you complain? Um, I really thought like, okay, my license be full of materialism. It will be full of things. It won't necessarily be full of love. It won't necessarily be full of meaning. It'll be full of things. And I just, if I add more zeros to my fund, it'd be 500 million, 5 billion. Well, I mean, those are zeros. Then I started thinking about, okay, what does a hedge fund actually do? What do I actually do to contribute to the world? And. I realized it had nothing to do with people. It was all about buying and selling companies around the world and making money off of that. And then, um, my mom's words echo to me. So when I was a little kid, she used to always say to me always, and I thought she was just motherly Judy crazy stuff. Right? Crazy moms talk. But she said, Chachi, you're going to grow up to help people. You're going to grow up to help the world. I was like mom or whatever, you know, five years old, seven years old, eight, 10, 15 years old. I would make mom whatever. But those words were echoing in my mind when I was at that sushi restaurant. And then I start thinking, am I helping people? Am I helping the world? And then, so I had many sleepless nights after that weeks of it. And that's when I decided to walk away from it all. And my mom was a conservative Japanese lady. Um, Very conservative. And she loved the image that her, her son went to Harvard, you know, wore a suit and tie was a hedge fund manager working on wall street, you know, in, you know, working in a skyscraper, you know, Scott ha you know, an office building, whatever it is, like, she loved that image and it broke my mom hard. I said, mom, I, I, you know, guess what I, this is not what I want to do anymore. And she was so upset. She's like chakra, you've taken your success for granted. You've forgotten our days in, in, in when we were suffering. And, and you know, you, you you're too arrogant. Now, these are the words you said to me. And I said, no, mom, I really got it. I got to find what it is that I want to do for the rest of my life. And, uh, and this is what I say for everybody's life. I climb to the top of the wrong mountain. I was living society's definition of success, not my own. And this is a trap for everyone. Okay. All of us. Um, if you start believing in your resume and okay, I got to go right to school, then I got to get the right job. And then after that job, I could get the next right job for the next company. And after I got what ended up happening is your resume becomes your prison because you're trying to do everything for your resume for the next job. Society makes it so easy to pursue a meaningless career with all the right titles, all the right prestige, all the right external extrinsic factors. That if you're not careful, if you don't just stop and pause and think deeply, is this what I really want to do with my life? Is this really who I want to be? And you almost forget that we have one life, right? Because a resume, you can change jobs after three years change and you can climb up the corporate ladder and all this other stuff. And, uh, the reality is that I climbed to the top of the wrong mountain and I had success without happiness, which is the ultimate failure. If you think about it, it's the ultimate failure. I owned a $500 million global hedge fund. Everyone thought I was doing well and financially it was, but inside I was dying. And of course, for some people, you know, buying and selling companies, that's their high and that's, that's truly what ignites their soul, right? I'm not saying don't, don't go to wall street for those young professionals who want to go to wall street. I'm not saying don't go to Silicon Valley or whatever it is, you know, chase your GS, whatever they may be, but make sure your dreams are intrinsic. Intrinsic in that you have thought deeply about what is your passion, what is your purpose? And try to align it as opposed to think about, you know, almost think of it as a rat race. What's the next thing. What's the next hardest thing to get into? Oh, it's Goldman Sachs. Okay. I'll do my best to get into Goldman Sachs what's that what's Africa. And is that Oh, to become a hedge fund manager, like you're always just chasing the next thing without really thinking my life. And so, uh, yeah, long story cut. Short. How I ended up on this adventure with one championship was I ended up retiring against my mom's wishes. My mom said, you know, pursuing martial arts was the dumbest idea. All my friends and family, like everybody said, that is ridiculous. You've lost it. Ciadra you're, you're, you're, you're stupid. You're crazy. Or you're arrogant. And, but I said, but. I told them about, you know, me, I love Marshall is what I love most, all my life and everyone agreed, but this is  be real, you know, martial arts is not a career, but I love it. And I, I think I, there must be a way for me to help people through martial arts because martial arts actually helped me. Right? I mean, martial arts through thousands of hours of training gave me these incredible values of integrity or humility honor and courage and hard work. And you know, all the things that marshals gives you. And of course, martial arts gave me a warrior spirit, right. To conquer adversity in life. So these were the magical things that I thought men, every human being on this planet, if they had all these amazing things that I received from our sharks, they will be better off too. So I was like, okay, I'm going to just do everything I can to live this life. And, but everyone was against it. And the first three years of one championship literally was. Thousands of failures, rejections. Um, when I went to Asian broadcasters, they said, that's a dumb idea. We already have MBA on TV with F1. We have EPL. We have, we don't need another sports property. Asians. Don't like sports. Then I went to governments. No, we don't. We think your event is stupid. Went to investors, investors turned me down. That's a really dumb idea. You'll never work in Asia athletes, even employees, I put on a job rec and no one applied. And then the few people that didn't apply, I would have to beg them to accept the job. Like it was just like, nobody wanted to and think about it, your parents, right? Like they're never say, Oh yeah, go, go sports as a career. Like no one thinks or arts or sports as a career in Asia, you know? And so, um, at the end of the year three, I called my mom and I said, mom, I think, um, I think I might quit because. Nothing's happening. I'm just burning millions of dollars, my own money and my best friend's money and nothing was happening. And, uh, she said, that's very cautious. Yeah. Great. Why don't you just quit then? And then we talked a little bit more and hung up the phone and I realized just quit. And that's when I thought about what do I love to do? I love martial arts. What's my purpose. So my purpose with one championship, it's not about fighting. Actually. It's not about gaming or martial arts or any of that. It's about unleashing real life superheroes who connect the world with hope, strength, dreams, inspiration. And this is what I mean about. It's very important to think about your why and your purpose. See if my purpose was, I want to be a billionaire, I would have quit because I would have been like, there's no path to be a billionaire here or whatever, if it was money or who was any other, I love fighting. I want to put on great fights. That's not enough to sustain you, but when you're like, man, the world is so full of negativity and hate and anger. Like, I want to be a beacon of hope and, and, you know, you know, sports, music and entertainment, they're the drivers of culture and the next generation. Right? So I knew my heart. If I built a great, a huge sports property that would be on TV every week that I knew that our heroes would genuinely impact how society behaves and what they value in culture. And that it would literally impact how little boys treat little girls, how kids treat their parents and grandparents, how men treat women. Um, and it's all through these celebration of these values and these heroes who inspire the world and the stories of triumph over adversity and tragedy and, and poverty and whatnot. And, um, so when I thought about all of that, right, I'm like, this is my passion. This is my purpose. I'm going to, I will die. I will do this. I don't care. I will die. If I have to die, I will die. It's a long winded, long winded way to answer your question. Sorry.


Bryan: (00:37:39) Awesome. Yeah, so many parts of wine dissects, you know, like just the first part, the mindset along, you know, it's, it's a difference between someone's who's who lives extraordinary life or someone lives in an ordinary life. You know, the mindset that you can definitely do it as you, can you do it, the university sort of help you in many ways when you obsess and like building, building, and building and pushing you as I sit



Chatri: (00:38:03) with, I see it with the Asian hustler network, bro, both Maggie and I see it. This is going to be ended up being huge. You know, if you think you're huge now, wait, you'll see three, four, five years because you're doing so much good. You know, when you have a, you know, 500 million members who like, what, what happened,

Bryan: (00:38:21) thank you for that child tree. And a lot of similarities too. Like I. I said the first time I seen my mom cry was in 2008 during the housing crisis, parents lost almost everything. That's not the first time I seen my mom cry, you know, like she was telling me like a look like they're little, how much money left? Like we're gonna have to struggle a little bit. And that's the point where I had to pick up part-time jobs and work different jobs, no over to you in some ways, you know? And just that, you know, when you're struggling, you're living you and your mom. I didn't sleep on the floor. I actually, no one knows this on the podcast here Posca podcast yet, because I haven't said it, but I like rented rooms and people's garages just like sleeping in the garage and sleeping clauses throughout my early twenties. As I was trying to get things going, you know, it's funny because it's et cetera, going to wall street. I went to real estate and that's when I realized like, Oh man, my life sucks. Like it's, it's not that fun. You know, like for no reason, I'm like you, I didn't exit as a rich person. I exit core. Then I came into it. I'm like, okay, like why can I do with my life? So I started thinking what I want to create a community because I created the house network out of, because my own insecurities, right? Like, like I wasn't good enough. I felt like I didn't really have people around me to support my dreams and goals and whatnot, you know, given the fact that that dark area, that group in LA, uh, at the time was kind of on the lower income area. So a lot of your friends when I talked to them about these goals are like, I just get full-time job, you know? Well, I, I feel like life is so big. You know, you can do so much more with that. If you've, if you believe in something, you can, you, you can make things happen. You know? And it's funny.


Chatri: (00:40:11) I love that spirit. Brian, I'm telling you, you're just a young, you and Maggie are just younger versions of me. I'm telling you, you, you, you have to have that, that dreamer spirit, which is very important because it's so easy to become a realist, right? Hey, be practical. Forget about your dreams. These are such a stupid thing. Like go be a realtor, go be an accountant, whatever, you know, and you get that back from your parents and your friends and right. I got that. Right. So it's hard to, to step out and do some.


Bryan: (00:40:38) Yeah. And it's funny, cause like I studied computer science as a, so I was a software engineer heard that and the day that I left my job, my parents like stop talking to me. So,


Chatri: (00:40:52) you know the drill man. That's exactly what my mom, uh, you know, my mom is this very conservative Japanese lady says. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, Asian parents can be a very tough.


Bryan: (00:41:03) Yeah. Yeah. And that's a struggle that you're going through and your first two years, you know, and just creating one championships, like we are going through a struggle right now. Like we pitching to a lot of investor and it just like, I don't know what you guys are doing. Like we're doing something great, you know, just believe in us. Yeah.


Maggie: (00:41:19) Actually we still want to quit, but


Chatri: (00:41:28) I will tell you, I will tell you that, um, I really believe there's universal God or universe, or God presents super difficult times in order to test your desire for your dream. I really believe this. And there is no founder in the world. Who's created a great company. Okay. Without ever asking him or herself shit, should I quit or not? Is it too hard? I can tell you that every, and I know many founders CEOs, very successful people. Um, and we all talk about how on the outside people think, wow, it's a rocket on the inside. It's like dude it's it's it's, it's it's, um, you know, figuring out how do you monetize the Asian hustle network. I totally see it. How do you you've in this great community and what are you going to do? Right. And, and, and, and what are you going to do for income for yourself? Like it's, I've been there. I know exactly


Bryan: (00:42:29) assets, keep things going. Okay. All today, vision is always there. And like you've mentioned before, and there's three pillars, right? Sports, media entertainment, but we also believe there's the four pillar education. You know, why people onstage from similar to what you believe that look like us sound like us, like can inspire a new generation of entrepreneurs because growing up, like, if you ask me, who am I talking to entrepreneurs. Not knowing who taught tree. It was at the time, you know, it's like I pick three, three white guys, you know, and I thought about them like, wait a minute, like why I thought the, you know, Asian people were super talented, where, where are we hiding and everything, you know? And I really want to change that now that I'm in my early thirties, just starting a family. See, and I'm like, okay, I want role models for my future kids. You know, where would it be in certain way going for Asians? Yeah.


Chatri: (00:43:22) Yes. That, that, that that's exactly it. That's, that's um, a big part of why I started One Championship. You know, our hashtag is we are one, which is genuinely, I want to unite all humanity, uh, by showcasing the best of humanity, right. The values that every family can sell, but with our kids and grandkids, Through heroes that genuinely unite and inspire entire countries, and then stories of triumph over impossible odds and tragedy and poverty and adversity genuinely to inspire humanity. And, but at the same time, along the same vein, you know, when I looked, when I was starting one championship, I said, every regional, the world has several multi-billion dollar sports properties that are part of the fabric of society and culture and daily life. So, you know, USS, NFL, NBA, major league baseball, Europe has F1 champions, league EPL, et cetera. And there's nothing in Asia. Then I started thinking and looking around, it was sad, but every buddy's favorite team in Asia was Manchester United or Liverpool or, or Chicago bulls, their favorite players or heroes were David Beckham. Or, you know, then I started looking at everyone, wore Nike Adidas or Reebok shoes. Then I examined it even further and said, well, Movies everyone's favorite movie star is Dwayne, the rock Johnson. And I love Dwayne the rock Johnson. So it's not nothing against it, but there was no, there was nothing about the continent of Asia that everyone was proud of four and a half billion people here. And then the favorite musicians. And it would be, you know, like Michael Jackson or, or whatever, you know, whoever's the latest, hottest, eh, uh, you know, ed Sheeran right now, whatever it is. And it made me realize, you know, there's just the, the West has exported content into the East for so long that Asia kind of idolizes the West. And I'm like, you know, I wanna be a leader who showcasing the beauty of Asia, create Asian hero at the same time, create global heroes, right. Not just Asian and, and generally show the beauty of Asia's go to school. Chill, treasures. And at the same time unite the world. So while I'm pro Asian, I'm very pro humanity first though, I really, um, you know, I think about human beings, we all laugh, cry, love, and dream. And I don't want to be divided by the color of our skin, our religious beliefs, our social economic status, our sexual orientation or gender. I just don't believe those. I believe those are artificial things that we make up to make, to make ourselves feel better about our insecurities. Right? If a man can say, I'm smarter than a woman, it makes you feel, you know, these are all actually fear-based insecurity based doubt based things. In reality, if you think about what all religions teach, it's the same thing. It's about love. It's about peace. It's about doing, being a good person. It's about doing right. Um, so for me, uh, I agree with you. I, I do want to create heroes. Of all of all, uh, countries, but I just want to balance out the narrative. Right, right now it's, it's, it's the Western narrative globally yet. There's yet 60% of the population lives in Asia. Right. So I just want to balance out the narrative. So I, if I, and it's kind of interesting, cause you know, one championship actually is quite balanced. It's like half of our world champions actually are from Asia and half are from the States or Europe or, or Latin America. And that's kind of what, you know, the 7.8 billion people in the world represent it's that's the rough split. Um, But I agree with you, Brian, like having no hero who looks like you, who didn't go through what you went through, like your story just right now about you quitting as a software engineer, you know, there's also my story about quitting, you know, wall street or, or going to Silicon Valley from Harvard. It's the same story. Like, but Asian kids need to hear this because they're like, Oh wow. Brian went through that. Oh, Chuck, she went to, Oh God, I can go and do something I love, I don't need to, you know, again, Asian parents or Asian parents, they'll tell you to study, be good at math and study and be accountant or engineer or whatever, you know, and force us into these safe jobs. Um, and, uh, but we can, we can show everyone that there are different paths and that, you know, you don't have to be the stereotypical, you know, good boy or good, good daughter.


Bryan: (00:49:01) Sure. If you told her, like, I was pretty excited when I first saw one championship, Instagram, I forgot how long ago? Pretty long ago. Right? Got it. Oh, wait. There's a huge speed of Asia is all about, and then I looked into it at first. I was like, it must be a European company. Didn't even say it. I felt like all these inspirational warriors fighters and whatnot coming up from people come up. My dad grew up in a pretty poor village in Vietnam, you know, I'm you have that, you know, like the humble back stuff and the fights and everything.


Chatri: (00:48:30) And yeah, we are, we are huge in Phnom. Like Vietnam fans are so hardcore. It is, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's it's uh, we, we, we have a champion named Martin Nguyen. Who's Australian Vietnamese. Um, you know, we, I did a tour with him in Vietnam and man, we were on the streets just getting street food and fans were coming up and, you know, asking autographs and photos of him. And like, because Vietnam has not had a world champion, you know, in any, any major sport. Right. So they, yeah. So it's a problem moment, right? Yeah.



Bryan: (00:49:00) Yeah, I love, yeah. I love that. I saw that and I'm like, well, man, because I come from a wrestling background, you know, I think that toughness is practicing and getting your ass kicked every day. It never leaves you you're like the worst. Yeah.


Maggie:  (00:49:20) Yeah. I mean on that topic, you know, you both are, have been fighters, you know, so I'm a, I'm a hugger is very, very tough. Yeah. And so after just starting, you know, multiple companies, . How does, you know, some of the lessons that you took from, you know, battling in the ring kind of translate into entrepreneurship or yeah.



Chatri: (00:49:50) You know, um, there are a lot of parallels and, and this is why, again, like why I, I really genuinely believe that martial arts is one of the greatest platforms to unleash human potential genuinely in my heart of hearts, because it teaches so many incredible lessons, um, on how to live a successful life. Right? Many of the attributes that make you successful in the ring are the exact same attributes that make you successful in life. Um, I'll give you example, you know, I remember very well. Um, when I was younger, my very first fight, I trained very, very hard and my master really believed in me. And I was very, very, very scared, like an hour before the fight, you know, to the backstage. You're rubbish. You're being rubbed down with all this oil and stuff and everything you're like, did I train hard enough? Do I have enough cardio? Um, you know, just thinking about somebody who has trained just as hard as you have, who knows as much as you do, and he's going to knock your head off. Right? So every fear, doubt insecurity comes to your mind. Like, am I fast enough? And you know, what am I doing here? What might, you know? Um, it's funny. Cause all our world champions, you know, in one championship go through that. So when I go backstage now and I see them, it reminds of me when I was younger, you know, cause they're all, they, when they compete and they're out in the open and, and, and, you know, with tens of thousands of fans, they are, they are alpha men and alpha women. Right. But backstage, they are human beings and they're just like you and me where they have to overcome their fears. Doesn't secure just before Showtime. Um, and they're pacing the floor and they're, you know, asking me to, you know, Just all sorts of random, crazy questions that, that, that reveal their, their insecurities. Um, but if you think about the journey of, of what it takes to be, you know, an accomplished martial artist, it's thousands of hours of training of overcoming pain, suffering of overcoming the desire to quit and saying, no one more round. I will go one more time. I want to quit. My body is sore, I'm broken. I just don't want to do it anymore. Go again. Um, and, uh, she's that grit and resilience that you need to succeed in life. And I'm just telling you every dream, if you look at every professional world, if you want to get to the top of that profession, whether you're a musician, an artist, uh, you know, a businessman, an athlete, whatever it is. The path to greatness is going to be suffering. It always is because you have to put yourself in such a situation that as Brian said, it's a, it becomes an obsession. And like you have to overcome fears, rejections failures, you know, pain, and like let's take like Nelson Mandela, Nelson, Mandela. People probably don't know because he's, he's, he's a, you know, he's even older than my generation, but he was his first South African black president. And back in the day when I was a kid, South Africa was still had apartheid, which is blacks and whites were segregated. So on the buses, restaurants, where they lived, the blacks were segwayed to the slums and the whites. This is South Africa and Nelson Mandela always dreamed of having, um, Equality racial equality, but because he became such a political activist, the government, the white government threw him in jail. I want to say for 29 years, he was in jail and solitary confinement because of a belief. And what's crazy is that South African government at the time offered him a plea deal four or five times to renounce his belief on apartheid and to, and to absolve the South African government, because he'd become a martyr right. Being in prison and, and, and for all the blacks. And, uh, he refused and then. Because it became martyr. The movie became louder and louder all over the world, you know, equality and, and UN sanctions against them against South Africa, that there was one day a visionary president came to be who was white, who didn't believe in, in Nelson Mandela, and then released him from prison. And then subsequently, you know, Nelson became the first black president in the history of South Africa, thinking about his suffering, he was installed or incumbent. You can Google his, uh, the, the, um, the photo of his, uh, prison, prison cell. It was in solitary confinement, little tiny little thing. I mean, he was just like, and for, to spend like 30 years of your life in there, you know, um, but then he'd been, you know, and he's, there's, you know, history will always remember him. There's no ifs, ands, or buts impact on the world is immeasurable on in South Africa. Is it measurable? Think about suffering. He went through, so. And you can go after, you know, same thing for Michael Jordan. If you guys saw the Michael Jordan and the ESPN documentary on Michael Jordan, that was on greatness, the price of greatness, the price of unleashing, our greatness is always the path of suffering. There is no greatness without it. And you know, if there was greatness, then it wouldn't, you know, it wouldn't make for, um, a great, uh, uh, significant story for human history. Cause human history, the greatest stories of humanity are those where there's tremendous suffering, but the triumphant overcoming of it. That that is in essence, the human struggle all over the world, Nick Wojciech, you know, Nick VOI check the, the, um, the guy with no arms, no legs. He was suicidal at nine years old. And today he's, you know, multimillionaire evangelists and, and, and love of his life is his wife is, you know, uh, has, is a normal, uh, physical body. They have kids, you know, he lives out with love and, and, and, and, and his release, um, incredible. Um, so countless stories. And that's it, because this one, that's how my company means. I tell my, my, my, my team, I say, you know, if you walk around any country and you say, do you want to be a millionaire? Everyone raised their hand. Do you want to buy your mom a house? Everyone raised their hand. Do you want to, you know, be an Olympic gold medalist. Everyone raised their hand. Okay. Now I tell you, this is the price that you have to pay to get there. Only one person will have their hands still raised, right? Because the price of the, of dream of achieving those dreams is so great that, and it can't be about pain, meaning that if your passion is driving you, you will overcome the pain and you won't view those painful things as, as pain because your passion is driving it. So it's something you love. So, you know, you're going to the fire, but you love that because you're on this journey that you have chosen, as opposed to doing something you hate. If you hate it, you hate being and kind of hate being software engineer or whatever it is, you know, and you're doing everything you're dreading. It. There's no passion or life behind it. Um, that's a very different existence. That's paid in a different way. It's emptiness and loneliness and meaninglessness. So in reality, all of us. I don't want to sell so bleak because it's not so bleak, but all of us, we choose our, our poison. We choose our pain, right? Either it's the pain of suffering because you love something so much. You're willing to do crazy things like the Asian hustle director or, or you hate your life so much because you're doing a job you hate, but it pays the bills and you have a nice house or a nice car because of it. But you hate your life. I'm telling you that's and the crazy thing is 99% of the world lives in the second bucket. Yeah, absolutely. They they're driving the Mercedes that they can barely afford because they're in a job they hate, but they have the Mercedes. So, you know, it makes them feel good to have a Mercedes, but life should be the reverse. It's the opposite. You should, you should do what you love first. And if it happens, so you get a Mercedes, that's fine. I mean, there's nothing wrong with material things. I have no, I'm not against them. As you know, I just happen to be a minimalist myself, but I have nothing against people who like material things and want to buy rewards for themselves. But, um, money and material, things should be a by-product of doing something you love. It should not be the aim of, of your life. And a lot of people have it reversed, right? They're like, I can't wait to make a hundred thousand dollars. I can't wait to buy a Mercedes. That's the aim of their life. They're forgetting about passion. They're forgetting about purpose. They're forgetting about a higher thing. Um, And, uh, so I, you know, when I see you guys struggling, I'm just telling you, it's the good fight, Brian and Maggie. And I can tell you as, as a seasoned entrepreneur, I can tell you you building something special and I'm just, I can see it because you're the first to ever do it. And you see whenever the first it's always a split year or yeah. It makes no sense Maggie or it's just so dumb. I'm sure your friends have asked you. Oh, it's cool. It's a nice thing. You know, Y Y




Bryan: (00:59:20) yeah, I left a pretty hefty software engineering job for this



Chatri: (00:59:29) but, but all of the crazy ones like us can appreciate that. I'm again, like, I'm, I'm a little older than you guys, so I I've been through your shoes and I know what you've gone through and what you're going through. And I've been an entrepreneur for the vast majority of my career. So, uh, it's always like that. And it's always the choice of, should I quit now? And your dream is going to bring you down to your knees, but you will have a breakthrough moment and, and right. Think about it. If I quit at the end of year three, when I call my mom, I had no idea that year four, five, six, seven, eight would be the years, literally year four. Okay. So this is, this is a little happen. So end of year three, I was about to quit. I was exactly, Oh man, that's it. I'm done. I've spent so much money in my time. You know, even though I loved it, I was like, I'm I was listening to all the negative stuff. The people saying that's stupid or whatever it is. And fourth year we hit 150,000 or getting video views online a hundred thousand and I was selling it. I was like, Oh my gosh, I had no idea. You know, that year was five and a half years ago we just crossed, um, An annualized run rate of 14.4 billion, organic video views billion, not million billion. So in the space of five years, we went from 150,000 organic video views online to last month, we hit 1.2 billion and it's continuing to grow every month. So I would have missed all of that out. You know? So I'm just telling you, when I look at you, when you guys are doing, and you know what I love about Asian health network, the mission is pure and you're actually helping people. And I'm telling you, when you add value to people's lives, eventually you make money. This is the number one rule of business, and you want to be super wealthy, just help more people. That's that's actually, it's actually very simple. If you help one person, okay, you can make some money you make, and you have a hundred people. Yes. You can help someone. You make them make some money. How wealthy people get wealthy is that their product or their service ends up helping a billion people or a hundred million people, whatever the number is. Um, and it always starts this way, but the fact that you guys are starting like me from, uh, the mission that's pure and that's genuinely helping it adds value to people's lives. Like, why am I doing this? I'm a very, very busy guy. I, I just, I get 700 emails a day, just for perspective, I'm doing this because I see the beauty of what Maggie and Brian, you guys are doing. I want to contribute in my small way to help you, you know, your, your, your mission. And I I'm attracted to it because I have been in difficult situations. I've been in poverty. And if my story can help somebody. You know, on your platform, I'll be very, very happy, you know? So, um, you know, it's, it's, it's a law of attraction at work, you know, I, I used to never believe in the law of attraction, but gender the did the energy youth around universe, it comes back. It really does. If you're an angry hateful person and that's what you use rolling, you're a hater and they start doubt doubter. Well, what's going to echo back on haters, naysayers, and doubters, and you're going to have your own click of people hating on people. And that's how these internet haters warriors ended up having, right. They hate on people. It's like, because of nothing else better, they're all surrounded by haters, naysayers, and doubters. But if you throw out dreams and love and passion and it comes back, you know, so.



Maggie:  (01:03:05) Wow. Josh, you just give us so much motivation.


Bryan: (01:03:12) We're never going to do it. Yeah.


Chatri: (01:03:18) Like I've, I've been in your shoes and I'm telling you, you, you, you, you guys have something special. Keep, keep going and you will see magical happen. Right. When you're right. When you're really, really, really down until you're like, you're ready to quit. You'll see that it's the universe that says, okay, you know, Megan Brown you've suffered enough for your dream. You're you're allowed now to enjoy it because it's, it's, it's the universe or God's way of saying, do you really, really want to help people? Do you really want, what do you really, really, really want to? Do you really believe in the mission or are you, are you just mission for money only money? And there's nothing wrong with money, but you know, if the mission is impure, it will fail. Yeah. And people resonate. Right.


Bryan: (01:03:57) I've heard it from our mission statement since day one. Yes. Yeah, exactly.


Maggie:  (01:04:02) One championship.


Chatri: (01:04:04) Exactly. Exactly, exactly. And that's why it's starting to resonate because we're not at my hatred or anger or controversial or racism or bloodsport or, you know, all the stuff that, you know, other organizations might do to attract attention, right? Like they'll have an athlete call out, you know, a wife's a hijab and, and insult Islam do a lot of crazy things like that. Um, we refused, we, we, we want Angela Lee to be a hero to all the little girls around the world because she's a fierce, independent, strong, intelligent, beautiful, you know, go get her a dream chaser. And that will inspire other little girls all over the world to chase their own dreams, not to be a fighter, but to be a doctor, a nurse engineer, a CEO, whatever the dream might be. Right. Um, And, uh, so when, when, when I look at what you guys did and I'm telling you at the very beginning, but it's, it's, there's going to be beautiful things going to hit. You will see three years from now. You'll be like, how did we hit a hundred million? You know, it can be like we were at like 70,000 and how it go to a hundred million. Like I'm telling you, if you told me chapter three and year four, you're going to have 150,000. And by the way, chartering the next five years, I just want you to know you're gonna go to 14 billion, annual life run rate of it. Come on, man. You mean 14 million, but billion is like, you know, and so I think we have similar missions. You know, what you guys are doing with your life and what I'm doing my life, the three of us have similar missions about one. We, we just want to do good in the world, express our souls through our work and somehow make an impact.


Maggie:  (01:05:35) Exactly. Yeah. So talk to me, we have one last question for you, and that is what one advice could you give to an aspiring entrepreneur and how can they unleash the real life hero?

Chatri: (01:05:48) Uh, well, I always say success leaves clues, right? So if you want to achieve something, find people who have already achieved what you want to achieve in life. And if you're lucky, they're your mentors for real, but even if you're, even if you're not able to reach them, but you could read their, their life stories online or in a book, you know, there are tremendous lessons. And so I always say, you know, you want to, if you want true love and you want to be married for 50 years with incredible kids and grandkids, and I'll go find someone's grandparents that has that story. It doesn't have to be your own and sit with them for coffee and learn about what it took, the good, bad, and the ugly, all the lessons. And, and what did it take to create a beautiful family and everlasting love, right? If you want to be a millionaire, same thing, go find a millionaire. Who's done it. Off of his or her passion and purpose. You want to create a global company, go find some, you know, uh, entrepreneur, doctor, whatever it is, success leaves, clues. We'll find people that have already achieved what you want to achieve and hopefully make them your mentors. And if not, no problem, then there's four or five, 10 people you can read, read up on that, that went through your path already. Um, and that's how you avoid all the mistakes. Like, you know, I have several proteges right now within one championship and also outside because I I'm, uh, I'm also entrepreneurial residents at NCI, which is, um, one of the business and, uh, all of my mistakes, all my failures, all of my, you know, lessons, I'm happy to share, you know, how did I raise $346 million? It wasn't, there was a, there was a lesson in that cause cause the first three years I got rejected from over a hundred investors. Uh, every investor thought I was an idiot, lik like really? And then how did it happen? A few years later we became the hub, one of the hottest startups out of Asia. Full-stop right. And so that whole journey I've been through. So I know what it's like to have no money, uh, from my earlier, earlier days from my very first startup. Um, and I know what it's like to burn millions of dollars of my own money and then get rejected by the entire world for three years before the entire world says, okay, you are an incredible billion dollar property. Here you go. So that journey I'm happy to share. Actually, I'm happy to share with you, both of you. I really like you got a lot, so you guys can, um, ping me anytime. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm here to help you guys as friends, not as a, you know, you tell him as a mentor, I'm happy to be your mentor, uh, because I believe in what you're doing and yeah. So, um, And I'm happy to be a potential investor as well. You know? Um, I, I invest in a lot of companies with young founders when I believe in that man. So, so that's the number one advice I give people is success, leaves, clues have the humility and the hunger to reach out to people who have already achieved what you want to achieve, but don't do it in a selfish way. Don't do it in a way that is, you know, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me. Right. So here's, here's a funny tip for your, for your, for your viewers. You know, I get hundreds of messages a week on my social media platforms. Um, and 99% of them, literally 90%, let's say like, especially on LinkedIn, I want a job. Can you get me a job? Chadri I want to borrow money from you. I want you to invest in HR tree. I want you to give me money. I want to have coffee with you. 99%. The 1% says treasury. I was reading online about you having this problem, um, entering the United States. I came up with the social media marketing campaign for you to take a look at this. I want to help you. So the funny thing is 99% of people reach out asking for help of these successful people. They don't have time. I don't have the heart. I want to help people, but I don't have the time to help individually hundreds of people every week. But when I see someone's already wanting to help me and I'm already successful, I don't meet the person they were trying to help me. Then it makes you stop. So actually a few of these ended up now working at one champion. They actually have a job in one time and they were quite senior now. Um, so it's, um, Just, I would advise your viewers, listeners and the community. If you want to get something from somebody offer something of value first, because you don't give it. It doesn't matter because I ended up not taking the favors there, but their, their mindset attracts me. You get my point, like they're not in this selfish self-centered mindset of how can they use Chautry they're in this mindset of, so I'm like, wow, you know, they're struggling. They're poor and still, they want to help me. Okay. I need to, I need to spend time with this guy because the old girl, w w w w she's shared, he must be special. Right. Um, so that's what advice I would give, you know, um, And so I ended up not replying to a lot of messages, like 99%. I don't reply because they're all asking me for my time or money or whatever it is. Right.


Bryan: (01:11:07) Thank you for that. By the way, listeners, I need, I'm talking to you randomly, right?


Chatri: (01:11:13) Right, right. Oh no. You didn't know what you did to win and put a up, it was my first week on clubhouse and Brian, you were so welcoming and so nice. And you did probably, well, at least I thought, I didn't know. I thought you didn't know who I was. So I was like, Oh, you know, I just random dude, like, and, and, um, you know, you're so nice. And then, then you messaged me and I was like, yeah. You know, and yeah. So I, I felt your vibe. I'm a very, I'm all about vibes. Now, if I feel someone's energy and it's a positive vibe, then it makes me want to help zoo. So, so yeah, I can officially be your mentor guys, if you want, like your wife, I love what you're doing.


Maggie:  (01:11:46) So how can our listeners find out more about you online?


Chatri: (01:11:51) Uh, they can go to my Snick and follow me on my social media, which is a yacht chat tree at Y O D C H a T R I] a. It's the name that my, uh, Grandmaster in martial arts gave me my fighting name. Uh, so everyone has a ring name in Moya Thai. Uh, chalk tree actually means warrior in the Thai language. So my name means warrior and yacht means extraordinary. So he used to call me the extraordinary worry. So Y O D C J T R. I is a name he gave me, he passed away several years ago as well. And, and, uh, uh, he's always been an inspiration for me, so that, that's how, um, I hope I hope to make him proud.


Maggie:  (01:12:31) Well, Todd tree. I just wanted to say, I genuinely wanted to commend you for all that you do, because we listened to your old podcasts and videos on them. I listen to you almost everyday on clubhouse too. I, I noticed that you talk a lot about luck. You got lucky, you got lucky. You lucky you got lucky. Yes, it does include luck. However, it also includes grit, resilience, and the belief that you can change the world and you have all three of those. So I just wanted to commend you and your mother, your mother's love is so strong, you know, and that goes such a long way to have that support system for you. And just like having her be by your side, as you were, you know, living in the dorms, you know, sleeping on the floor in sleeping bags, she still had the ability to dream. Because she knew that you could change the world and her saying how, you know, when you wanted to go back to go, go to Singapore to start your own entrepreneurship journey. And she was, you know, she didn't feel like she wanted to do that. She still said, you know, whether I agree or disagree with Chadri Chaudhry always gets his way. And I scaring up because you know, her love is so strong for you. And I just wanted to commend you for all that you've done.


Chatri: (01:13:49) Well, thank you so much Maggie at, uh, the fact that, you know, that, that, that, uh, my mom said that, yes, that's touching to me. Um, yeah, she's definitely my, my, my, my biggest inspiration. She's also my biggest tormentor as well. Cause I've never good enough, you know, Asian parents, like, you know, I'm never good enough, whatever I do, I'm still this 15 year old naughty boy. Um, but, uh, but thank you so much for the time guys. I really enjoyed it. And like I said, you know, ping me any time. I think you have my WhatsApp, right? You have my WhatsApp any time, let me know how I can help you guys. And if you are looking for investors, let me, let me see your business plan and stuff like that too, you know? But, um, I'm happy to help you guys. I, I, I really like what you're doing and I see again, you were where I was in, in that, in that really tough period of one championship before it took off, because when you're adding value, it's growing, then the network's growing and people are talking about it. So that I'm telling you that there is something.


Bryan: (01:14:47) Appreciate it. That's how tree. Yeah, it keeps us going for sure. And thank you for your time.


Chatri: (01:14:53) Okay, thanks. All right. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Maggie. Thanks so much. Take care.


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